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The 3 no's about Christ
ACP ^ | 10-17-01 | staff

Posted on 10/17/2001 7:05:36 AM PDT by Alas

Why I do not trust or have any faith in the fbi

"...Who would want to spend eternity in the lake of fire with the likes of bin ladden, hitler,

those who murdered all at Mount Carmel outside of Waco, Texas? Who would want to spend eternity with he who took careful aim and killed Vicki Weaver while she nursed her baby?

Who would want to spend all eternity with satan and his minions that slaughter babies in the womb? Would anyone who understands the horrors of an eternity in the lake of fire want to spend even one micro second with those who fabricate evidence to send a man to his death through execution for a crime he did not commit? ..."

those who murdered all at Mount Carmel outside of Waco, Texas? Who would want to spend eternity with he who took careful aim and killed Vicki Weaver while she nursed her baby? Just a couple of the reasons so many of us have neither trust nor faith in the fbi.

Nukem


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1 posted on 10/17/2001 7:05:36 AM PDT by Alas
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To: Alas
Actually, it is not JUST the FBI that is corrupt. The ENTIRE Federal Government is corrupt right down to its core!

Any governemnt, which accepts the premise that women should be able to murder their unborn children because "she owns her body", while at the same time arresting peaceful drug users, is evil.

I suppose the governemnt thinks it OWNS us and our bodies, unless, OF COURSE, you want to kill your children!

Our government also sets on its high-horse against terrorism -- unless, of course, it is they who want to engage in acts of terrorism -- Ruby Ridge, Waco, Rainbow Farms, spraying innocent children with poison in Colombia -- you name the devisous, ungodly act, and the US Governemnt has done it -- with relish!

I will defend my family and friends, but I WILL NOT defend this government!

2 posted on 10/17/2001 7:13:50 AM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: JRadcliffe
Well said.

Thanks

3 posted on 10/17/2001 7:17:54 AM PDT by Alas
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To: JRadcliffe
Well, I don't think the feeling is reciprocated. I guess the government will continue to keep your food safe, your water clean, your roads paved and keep that little internet thingy you use from falling into disrepair.

If you want to get government out of your life completely, you might want to move out of the country. Maybe to Afghanistan, where you can be as free as you want to be.

4 posted on 10/17/2001 7:34:01 AM PDT by Vladiator
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To: anniegetyourgun
Gee....and I thought we are the government in this representative republic.
5 posted on 10/17/2001 7:36:00 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Vladiator
"Well, I don't think the feeling is reciprocated. I guess the government will continue to keep your food safe, your water clean, your roads paved and keep that little internet thingy you use from falling into disrepair."

I will not get into the numerous studies, which have shown that the free market could do all of these things at a fraction of the cost while offering superior service -- but that's really beside that point -- or did you even bother to read the posts?

The fact of the matter is MY STATE does all of these things and any interference by the federal pigs in DC is TOTALLY unconstitutional.

The federal government's role, as per the US Constitution is VERY limited.

Now, dispute my post. Tell me that the government DOES NOT say that a woman has the right to murder her unborn child -- because she has the right to her own body. Then tell me that this SAME government proceeds to tell EVERYONE what they can and cannot do with their bodies when it comes to other issues.

Tell me that the government does not engage in acts of terrorism against ITS OWN PEOPLE. Tell me that Ruby Ridge, Waco, Rainbow Farm, and spraying poison on babies IS NOT happening.

When you can disprove my post, instead of attacking, then we'll talk.

6 posted on 10/17/2001 7:45:17 AM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: JRadcliffe
You know what, good people? IT IS OUR OWN FAULT!!!

For accepting political correctness with a whimper, for only caring about our wallets, for not insisting that the media tell us the truth, for not questioning restrictive laws, for not voting in mass numbers,for bill & hitlery.
Good God, we elected the creep TWICE!!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 10/17/2001 8:03:32 AM PDT by casings
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To: JRadcliffe
Defending this country is one of those "things" given to the federal government by the constitution. The IRS, the FBI, the CIA, ATF, BLM, DEA, and the myriad other bureaucractic entities promulgated by our MOC (members of congress) AIN'T. So - I'll defend this country because this country IS my family but ask me if I think for one second that we need the MOC, ATF, FBI, CIA etc. NOT. The whole group are arrogant a** holes.

If everyone in the Arab world knew that the WTC was going to be targeted on the 11th - why didn't the extravgantly paid CIA know?? Anyone of them could have asked a street vendor and he would have told them not to be by the WTC on the 11th. Go figure. Your tax money at it's best!

8 posted on 10/17/2001 8:10:10 AM PDT by sandydipper
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To: JRadcliffe
"the free market could do all of these things at a fraction of the cost while offering superior service" .

Go get 'em tiger!!!

Go find a country that supports the free market better than the USA, and live there. Maybe they'll appoint you mullah.

I wasn't trying to "disprove" your post. I was just telling you that if you don't want to defend this country, the door is open for you to leave. And don't let it hit you in the butt on the way out.

9 posted on 10/17/2001 8:47:29 AM PDT by Vladiator
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To: Alas
Bob Celeste, whose website you quote ("Christian Patriot"), was kicked off of Free Republic by Jim Robinson, for, among other things, anti-Catholic bigotry and ridicule of the Pope.

If Brother Bob said the sky was blue, I'd run outside to check.

11 posted on 10/17/2001 8:57:15 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Vladiator
Well said!! Why didn't you just keep it simple and say ,, America, love it or leave it. It worked so well in the 60's didn't it? Just lood how far right we've come since then.
12 posted on 10/17/2001 8:59:29 AM PDT by Ragin1
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To: JRadcliffe
Actually, it is not JUST the FBI that is corrupt. The ENTIRE Federal Government is corrupt...

1) It is worse then that. The entire human race is corrupt. So, the phrase "born in sin" fits like a glove. The founders of this country understood that all to well. But you are aware of that. Anytime you allow power over people to accumulate to one entity, corruption is sure to follow.

2) This is the best country in the world!!?!! Despite the problems, we have it better than anywhere else.

13 posted on 10/17/2001 9:06:10 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: Vladiator
"I wasn't trying to "disprove" your post. I was just telling you that if you don't want to defend this country, the door is open for you to leave. And don't let it hit you in the butt on the way out."

I will defend this country against ALL aggressors, both foreign and domestic. Right now the biggest threat to our nation IS THE US GOVERNMENT.

BTW: I was in the military for 12 years. I did do my duty, and I have the medals and the ribbons to prove it.

15 posted on 10/17/2001 9:35:18 AM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: anniegetyourgun
That does bring up a point. I have often wondered if term limits would be the answer to our mess in congress/senate. If you think about it, all the liberal states would still send a liberal congressman, but, there would be no such thing as a junior congressman, or a senior senator. There would be far less game playing and far more attention paid to issues if a congressman or senator got one four year shot at making his impact.

It would take away the money factor in a persons ability to win an election. A person would really have to want to serve to take four years out of his life and not be able to make a lifelong career out of public office.

Is there someway the public can bypass the congress and make this into law? Petitions? Some way to bring it to the ballot box and go over their heads?

16 posted on 10/17/2001 9:44:25 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: JRadcliffe
Right now the biggest threat to our nation IS THE US GOVERNMENT.

Umm. Yah. Okey dokey.

BTW: If you need a last refuge, please do not make it patriotism.

17 posted on 10/17/2001 10:31:05 AM PDT by Vladiator
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"BTW: If you need a last refuge, please do not make it patriotism."

Simple respect for the Constitution IS patriotism. We do NOT swear an oath to uphold and protect the US Government. We swear and oath to uphold and protect the US CONSTITUTION.

It's very simple really. I'm surprised you're having such difficulty.

18 posted on 10/17/2001 11:32:07 AM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: sinkspur
Bob Celeste, whose website you quote ("Christian Patriot"), was kicked off of Free Republic by Jim Robinson, for, among other things, anti-Catholic bigotry and ridicule of the Pope.

If Brother Bob said the sky was blue, I'd run outside to check.

So, because Jim doesn't like what a preacher preaches, we are suppose to ignore him? I have no idea where Jim stands with Christ, but I do read Bob's thoughts daily and find them to be solid on scripture and that is what I'm looking for in a preacher.

He preaches salvation through the Lord Jesus and only though Him, not something very popular among many these days.

Nukem

19 posted on 10/17/2001 2:13:02 PM PDT by Alas
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To: Alas
So, because Jim doesn't like what a preacher preaches, we are suppose to ignore him?

If a preacher is a religious bigot, and you follow him, then you approve of his bigotry. I guess that makes you a bigot too.

20 posted on 10/17/2001 6:39:03 PM PDT by sinkspur
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