The Clinton administration did not consider Russia, China or Osama bin Laden to be a threat against the United States.As much as I despise Clinton, this is just a flat out lie that he didn't consider bin Laden a threat, pure and simple...and I'm really getting sick of this sort of thing. There are plenty of reasons to not like Clinton without spreading lies like this and making conservatives look bad.
Real freepers believe that Clinton is automatically guilty of whatever anybody dreams up to charge him with -- and they always will believe him guilty of all those charges -- all the way to their graves -- no matter how much evidence accumulates to prove them dead wrong.
This missle technology charge is yet another manufactured scandal. It's just something to holler names at Clinton over.
The REAL scandal with China happened under Reagan-Bush, when the ChiComs "somehow" acquired our w-88 missle technology. Nothing that China got under Clinton would do them a BIT of good if they hadn't gotten so much MORE from Reagan.
Surely you forgot the "sarcasm off" -- if not, then get serious.
News/Current Events
Source: The Conservative Majority
Published: Oct. 18, 2001 Author: Republican_Strategist
Posted on 10/18/01 11:30 PM Pacific by
Republican_Strategist
Now I wanted to bring something to your attention something that I think hasn’t received any real coverage by the media.
I don’t want to sound too presumptuous, but it would seem that Bill Clinton authorized and created the terrorist Taliban group and backed them from 1994 to 1997. It seems he and his administration had a sympathetic view of the Taliban seizing power in Afghanistan.
A certain book coincidentally called ‘Taliban’ may have some information on the Clinton administration’s support of the Taliban.
The author is one Ahmed Rashid. The primary source was Dana Rohrabacher, a representative and a republican in California has been very vocal about this very thing and has been critical of this long before the Sept. 11th attacks.
According to Rohrabacher, the Clinton administration played a role in creating the Taliban by giving a ‘green light’ to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states to fund, direct, and organize the Taliban. Rohrabacher said at one point on the house floor in a Sept. 17th [1999] speech that the Clinton administration promised Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that it wouldn’t overthrow the Taliban.
The UPI reported it.
Also he made all to familiar accusations during the past eight years. He accused a department; the state department to be exact, of key withholding documents that would show the Clinton administration supported the terrorist Taliban movement and its seizure of power in Afghanistan.
The official he blamed specifically was assistant secretary at that time, one Karl Inderfurth.
Furthermore it seems one Robin Raphel, Clinton’s assistant secretary of state for south Asia affairs until mid-1997, is believed to be instrumental in the rise of the Taliban. She lived in Pakistan for a number of years and her husband was U.S. ambassador to that country.
He was killed in a bombing that also removed a Pakistani dictator.
One report suggested that several Islamic states expressed the belief that Raphel and other U.S. officials along with Afghans in the U.S. were on the payroll of Unocal’s payroll. They cite that she provided a fiery defense of Unocal and especially the Taliban in negotiations with the Afghanistan government.
During such an encounter, Raphel's words -- in effect asking the government to "give it up" -- were so insulting that Ahmad Shah Masood, Afghanistan's two-decade national resistance leader, threw down his trademark pakol cap, pointed to it and said, "I will continue to defend Afghanistan even if I control no more land than the size of this cap!"
It seems this teeth-shattering reply and unexpected blow to Raphel was the last straw. According to Afghan government intelligence sources, soon after this heated negotiation session the Taliban -- newly supplied with night-vision instruments, satellite maps, and other sophisticated gear -- aided by hundreds of Arab militants, Pakistani extremists and camouflaged Pakistan Army regulars stormed into Jalalabad and then into the Afghan capital.
Suffice it to say that during both terms in office, Clinton and his State Department were pulling for a Taliban military victory.
Clinton administration jubilation at such a victory was mainly rooted in its support of oil and gas pipelines. Dana Rohrabacher in his 19 May 2000 interview with Omaid Weekly accused the Clinton administration of providing covert support to the Taliban.
FYI***Hidy***
Those people who are just infatuated with Clinton know they can’t defend such a thing and with that they merely seek to counter balance it with Reagan’s support of Afghan fighters in their fight with the Soviets. If anything they in some way feel they can balance a Clinton failure with a brilliant Reagan success.
Reagan took an action that crippled our worst enemy, the Soviet Union, and that played a crucial role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.
As for Bin Laden, he worked closely with Pakistani military officials and Saudi intelligence officials, but he did not have a relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency, which also supported the Afghan resistance. Milt Bearden, the CIA station chief in Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, denied cooperating with bin Laden, but he knew of his efforts.
Bin Laden was there using his family’s 5 billion dollar fortune and construction business.
It seems Bin Laden served primarily as a fund-raiser and recruiter who publicized the jihad and helped transport Arab volunteers to Afghanistan. He became more involved in the logistics of supporting the jihad, bringing earth-moving equipment from his family’s construction company to carve out roads and bunkers in the rugged terrain of eastern Afghanistan along the border with Pakistan.
It is important to point out he became a terrorist threat during the Clinton administration, which missed at least two key opportunities to get him.
As for the stinger missiles we supplied to Afghanistan, the U.S. had a buyback program. It was estimated that we supplied them with over a thousand.
Out of that we managed to by some 450 of them, plus you have to minus the ones used and it would seem that there were very few left. Then factoring in time and deterioration, it would seem unlikely that there are any operable stingers left supplied by the U.S.
So as we now began to introduce troops in Afghanistan, we must be keenly aware of the Clinton administration’s support of the terrorist Taliban, we must be aware of the Clinton administration’s failure to capture or ‘take out’ Bin Laden on two occasions, and we must stand for people deflecting from these facts by dredging up Reagan’s overwhelming success in the region.
1 posted on 10/18/01 11:30 PM Pacific by Republican_Strategist
First, Clinton did not consider China a threat; he most certainly embraced China and allowed flagrant and repeated violations of EVERY SINGLE NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY China ever signed to go unpunished.
Please see the following Congressional reports:
CRS96-889 “China: Commission of Science, Technology, and Industry for National Defense (COSTIND) and Defense Industries,” Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division, Shirley A. Kan, December 3, 1997.
CRS94-422S, “Chinese Nuclear Weapons and Arms Control Policies: Implications and Options for the United States,” Report for Congress, Congressional Research Service, Robert G. Sutter, Senior Specialist In International Politics, Office of Senior Specialists, March 24, 1994.
CRS94-92F, “China: Current U.S. Sanctions,” Report for Congress, Congressional Research Service, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division, Kerry Dumbaugh, Specialist in Asian Affairs with the Assistance of James Casey Sullivan, Office of Senior Specialists, Updated April 14, 1995.
CRS92056: “Chinese Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction: Current Policy Issues,” Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division, Shirley A. Kan, June 1, 1998.
CRS98-485 F, “China: Possible Missile Technology Transfers from U.S. Satellite Export Policy - Background and Chronology,” Congressional Research Service, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division, Shirley A. Kan, June 12, 1998.
CRS94002: “China-U.S. Relations,” Congressional Research Service, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division, Kerry Dumbaugh, November 25, 1996.
Further, the Clinton Administration DID change the rules to allow China to buy dual-use telecommunications equipment:
General Accounting Office of the United States Report #GAO/NSIAD-97-5, “Export Controls: Sale of Telecommunications Equipment to China,” Letter Report, November 13, 1996.
The New York Times, “Donor's Actions Raise New Questions on Buying Access to President,” by Stephen Labaton, December 27, 1996.
EX. ORD. NO. 12981. ADMINISTRATION OF EXPORT CONTROLS, Ex. Ord. No. 12981, Dec. 5, 1995, 60 F.R. 62981, as amended by Ex. Ord. No. 13020, Oct. 12, 1996, 61 F.R. 54079; Ex. Ord. No.13026, Sec. 1(b), Nov. 15, 1996, 61 F.R. 58767, William Jefferson Clinton.
Next, the Clinton Administration DID coddle Russia. See "Improving Russia’s Access to Early Warning Information, Preliminary Results,” Congressional Budget Office, June O’Neil, September 3, 1998. The Democrats asked for nearly $1B to sustain Russia's military; after a dog-fight, they got only $444M through the Congress.
As for bin Laden; Saudi Arabia offered to hand bin Laden over to us in 1996. The Clinton Administration DROPPED THE BALL and only picked it up again during the Impeachment. They also DROPPED THE BALL in Iraq by allowing our inspectors to thrown out, retaliating with a meaningless bombing raid, and then not DOING ANYTHING to get our folks back in there.
The US inspector for the UN testified before Congress that the White House LIED to him repeatedly. If anyone can dig up his testimony, I'd appreciate it. I think I've supplied our friend with enough reports to keep them busy for a while.