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Islam's God: The Origin of Allah the Moon God
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Posted on 10/23/2001 8:39:39 AM PDT by spycatcher

Pre-Islamic Arabia's religion was one of superstition. Belief in jinns (genies), curse casting, magic stones, totems was the norm - and it was against this background that Allah arose. Although the Quran is claimed to be a heavenly writing with no earthly source, evidence of these very sorts of cultural influence is found in such places as Suras 55, 72, 113 and 114.

Animism, the belief that spirits inhabit rocks, trees and other elements was also very commonplace. Some of these stones were venerated and used as a focal point for the worship of a particular tribal god. No surprise, Muhammad's family had just such a stone for their own tribe - a black stone, in fact, that they kept at the Kabah (where the tribal idols were set up). The pagan rites of bowing toward Mecca, making a pilgrimage to the Kabah, running around it seven times, kissing it, then running to the river to throw stones at the devil all found there way into Islamic practice.

The final piece of the puzzle was in found in the religion of the Sabeans, an astral religion that worshipped the moon god and planned their religious rites around the lunar calendar. One such rite was fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, a practice which would also be adopted by Muhammad.

If these things were not present before Muhammad received them from Allah (who himself is the moon god of Muhammad's tribe), why did Muhammad not have to explain what those words meant in the Quran? How would people have known who Allah was? ( or: what a jinn was? what the Kabah was? what the word Islam meant? etc.). Even the word "Islam" which many believe to mean "submission" was not an original word. In Arabic it was a secular term that denoted the strength and bravery of a desert warrior (a definition that accurately reflects the war-like tribes that founded Islam with bloodshed).

The Moon God

"Allah" is from the compound Arabic word "al-ilah" or in english "the god". Allah was known before Muhammad's time without a doubt. His name has been found in pre-islamic writings and other archeological finds. At the Kabah in Mecca over 350 gods were worshipped, but it was built especially for the chief deity - the moon god. Allah was the personal title of the moon god. Allah was married to the sun goddess. They produced three daughters, whose worship Muhammad would later make the mistake of condoning. The crescent moon symbol of Arabia came from this god.

Muhammad's family revered this particular god, and it is this idol that Muhammad declared to be the only true god. So, Allah - far from being the revealed God of the Bible as Muhammad would have us believe - is nothing more than an amplified pagan idol. Muhammad did not re-make the pagan god, he simply removed the lower deities from the rites of worship. That is why he never had to explain who Allah was. By definition, an idol converted in the 7th century into a new god cannot be the sama God revealed thousands of years earlier to Biblical prophets!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: allah; heresy; islam; moongod; muslim; ramadan; ramadon
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To: headsonpikes
"I was a victim of soikumstanses."

That's OWK's general claim for religious fanaticism, ain't it?

The soikumstanse of birth???lol

I was hoping you'd get it. Actually he does have a point, but he keeps leaving out one nasty but important detail. In this country, if you choose to chuck the religion you were taught, the most you risk is pi$$ing off your parents. Over there in allaland, you might literally lose your head. A small but important detail when attempting to establish the moral equivalency of religions outside the context of how they relate to political power structures. Of course if you miss it, you can always underline.

161 posted on 10/23/2001 2:59:03 PM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: vedicstar
see above post to WIGS
162 posted on 10/23/2001 2:59:23 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: OWK
To: OWK

"If there was no God, man would invent him" Voltare - #133 -

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" If there were no OWK, Jim Rob would invent him."

165 posted on 10/23/2001 3:19:08 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
" If there were no OWK, Jim Rob would invent him."

LOL...

166 posted on 10/23/2001 3:21:23 PM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Yup, that's it.
168 posted on 10/23/2001 3:38:45 PM PDT by Gargantua
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Aramaic/Syriac alaha, means 'God' or 'the God'.
169 posted on 10/23/2001 3:46:48 PM PDT by Patria One
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To: vedicstar

Oh boy, Bible quotes. Now I am really convinced.

I'm not exactly sure of what you're supposed to be convinced -- because it seems that you're saying one thing -- while the quote was meant for another thing.

You see, I said (in reference to the quote) --

God, Himself makes it abundantly clear what the situation is between the Jews and the Christians.

Now, the issue was raised about "God" between the Jews and Christians. The quote was meant to clarify that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was the one which was spoken about here -- and thus, in that context -- it provides proof that the same God is being spoken about. They both are referring to exactly the same God.

That's the reason for the quote -- in this particular context. And you see..., no matter whether someone would actually believe the Bible -- it does provide evidence that we're talking about the same God.

And so, it would be easy to prove that we aren't talking about the god of Islam (because of the way they identify that god). In addition, it wouldn't work for any other god of some other religion (i.e., one outside of Christianity or Judaism).

You seem more concerned with some other issue -- of whether you want to believe the content of the Bible -- rather than the comparison of the "God" involved -- between other religions.

170 posted on 10/23/2001 3:52:42 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: WWTraveler
Your# 155)
Exception: "ego"
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171 posted on 10/23/2001 3:53:46 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Patria One
I know that, but the timing and the archaeology are intriguing re: Ilah and Allah.
172 posted on 10/23/2001 3:55:38 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
Thanks, but I don't know how much longer I'll have it. The gravitational pull increases with every donut.

LOL Should we look for a hard or soft landing?

173 posted on 10/23/2001 4:06:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: OWK
Yes, you got it. Go to the head of the class!
174 posted on 10/23/2001 4:07:05 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: OWK
Allah is like the abusive husband that doesn't let you talk to anyone or get out of the house because he's so insecure that you'll leave him. God is like the loving husband who loves you enough to give you freedom but works towards winning you and showers you with his love.

Okay, if you still can't see the difference, try the analogy of a dictatorship (Islam) and a democracy (Christianity). Islam teaches that apostates, (Moslems who decide to leave the faith) are to be killed. See if you can find that in the Bible.

175 posted on 10/23/2001 4:10:53 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: OWK
So when Muslims worship the God of Abraham, they're worshipping some kind of "Moon-God"... But when western Christians worship the God of Abraham, they're worshiping the real one?
Is that it?

Nope, it's not When Christians worship the God of Abraham they are worshiping a promitive Volcano and Storm God from the Sinai, Yahwah. There is also plenty of evidence left in the bible of this fact. It is a standard doctrine in Comparative religion.

So9

176 posted on 10/23/2001 4:14:39 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: vedicstar
It is sad, but fundies of every religion are almost all alike.

Have you ever considered you might be to blame for that? You and Richard Gere should get to work channeling more positive energy.

177 posted on 10/23/2001 4:19:44 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: spycatcher
In Islam when they say that God cannot be known, it means that God cannot be domesticated by man. He is the Creator, not man.
178 posted on 10/23/2001 4:26:34 PM PDT by Patria One
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To: Prodigal Daughter
In Christianity we say, "God is Love".. In Islam they say "God is loving".. They differentiate the state of being "in love" in the human sense as "Godly" with God's infinite capacity to love his children that is beyond human capability.
179 posted on 10/23/2001 4:31:25 PM PDT by Patria One
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To: RnMomof7
Saw your handle flip by on the screen. Thought I'd slip in here and see what you were up to in a thread that has OWK on every other post. Don't waste your breath with these heathen. There are better causes and possibly receptive vessels.
180 posted on 10/23/2001 4:36:05 PM PDT by mercy
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