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Remarks by President Bush at Signing of USA Patriot Act of 2001
US Newswire ^ | 10/26/01 | George W. Bush

Posted on 10/26/2001 9:17:04 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet

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And so it is done.
1 posted on 10/26/2001 9:17:04 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
We are so very fortunate to have this man as our President.
2 posted on 10/26/2001 9:22:47 AM PDT by Sunshine55
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To: Native American Female Vet
It is now my honor to sign into law the USA Patriot Act of 2001. (Applause.)

Even after the Supremes gut this deal, we'll continue to rue the day.

3 posted on 10/26/2001 9:25:36 AM PDT by Glenn
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4 posted on 10/26/2001 9:25:52 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: Glenn
I sure hope the Supremes do the job they are suppose to. It just blows my mind people think this is a good thing. Our founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves today.
6 posted on 10/26/2001 9:39:28 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
America is now a police state. The terrorists have already won. At this point, I consider the State a greater enemy than the terrorists. There will be no significant restraints on these new police powers. The Constitution is obviously no restraint. The rubber-stamp judge panels are no restraint.

America has passed itself some blatantly fascist legislation here, and I, for one, shall oppose it to the utmost.

True patriots have many enemies, and the majoritarian American Police State is now chief among them. Hysterical democracy reigns supreme over Constititutional Republicanism once again.

I'm not impressed with the Constitutional lip service on the part of Bush-43 or Fashcroft, or anyone else who supports this sh!t.

We can only hope that some Constitutional judges quickly begin slapping down the tyrannical provisions of this law.

War is no excuse to negate the Constitution; those parts of the Constitution which are subject to suspension in time of War are clearly stated, and this law clearly exceeds those provisions.

The consent has been manufactured masterfully here.

9 posted on 10/26/2001 10:02:05 AM PDT by sargon
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To: Native American Female Vet
This does not seem to be the "final" version as it is not up yet apparently.

H.R.2975
See SEC. 309. DEFINITION. in Text of Legislation This link may "time out" so you may have to use the previous link.

Provide Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (PATRIOT) Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House)

`Sec. 25. Federal terrorism offense defined
`As used in this title, the term `Federal terrorism offense' means an offense that is--

`(1) is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion; or to retaliate against government conduct; and
`(2) is a violation of, or an attempt or conspiracy to violate- section 32 (relating to destruction of aircraft or aircraft facilities), 37 (relating to violence at international airports), 81 (relating to arson within special maritime and territorial jurisdiction), 175, 175b (relating to biological weapons), 229 (relating to chemical weapons), 351(a)-(d) (relating to congressional, cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination and kidnaping), 792 (relating to harboring terrorists), 831 (relating to nuclear materials), 842(m) or (n) (relating to plastic explosives), 844(f) or (i) (relating to arson and bombing of certain property), 930(c), 956 (relating to conspiracy to injure property of a foreign government), 1030(a)(1), 1030(a)(5)(A), or 1030(a)(7) (relating to protection of computers), 1114 (relating to protection of officers and employees of the United States), 1116 (relating to murder or manslaughter of foreign officials, official guests, or internationally protected persons), 1203 (relating to hostage taking), 1361 (relating to injury of Government property or contracts), 1362 (relating to destruction of communication lines, stations, or systems), 1363 (relating to injury to buildings or property within special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States), 1366 (relating to destruction of an energy facility), 1751(a)-(d) (relating to Presidential and Presidential staff assassination and kidnaping), 1992, 2152 (relating to injury of fortifications, harbor defenses, or defensive sea areas), 2155 (relating to destruction of national defense materials, premises, or utilities), 2156 (relating to production of defective national defense materials, premises, or utilities), 2280 (relating to violence against maritime navigation), 2281 (relating to violence against maritime fixed platforms), 2332 (relating to certain homicides and other violence against United States nationals occurring outside of the United States), 2332a (relating to use of weapons of mass destruction), 2332b (relating to acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries), 2339A (relating to providing material support to terrorists), 2339B (relating to providing material support to terrorist organizations), or 2340A (relating to torture);
`(3) section 236 (relating to sabotage of nuclear facilities or fuel) of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2284);
`(4) section 601 (relating to disclosure of identities of covert agents) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 421); or
`(5) any of the following provisions of title 49: section 46502 (relating to aircraft piracy), the second sentence of section 46504 (relating to assault on a flight crew with a dangerous weapon), section 46505(b)(3), (relating to explosive or incendiary devices, or endangerment of human life by means of weapons, on aircraft), section 46506 if homicide or attempted homicide is involved, or section 60123(b) (relating to destruction of interstate gas or hazardous liquid pipeline facility) of title 49.'; and
(2) in the table of sections in the beginning of such chapter, by inserting after the item relating to section 24 the following:
`25. Federal terrorism offense defined.'.

(b) Section 2332b(g)(5)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `is a violation' and all that follows through `title 49' and inserting `is a Federal terrorism offense'.
(c) Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)(B)--
(A) by inserting `(or to have the effect)' after `intended'; and
(B) in clause (iii), by striking `by assassination or kidnapping' and inserting `(or any function thereof) by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping (or threat thereof)';
(2) in paragraph (3), by striking `and';
(3) in paragraph (4), by striking the period and inserting `; and'; and
(4) by inserting the following paragraph (4):
`(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; and
`(B) appear to be intended (or to have the effect)--
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government (or any function thereof) by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping (or threat thereof).'.

10 posted on 10/26/2001 10:05:14 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: amundsen
My question is when was the last time the Republicans actually rolled back government powers over citizens?

Bears repeating....

11 posted on 10/26/2001 10:06:10 AM PDT by Aristophanes
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To: amundsen
My question is when was the last time the Republicans actually rolled back government powers over citizens?

They had their chance in 1994, and promptly blew it.

12 posted on 10/26/2001 10:09:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: philman_36
Well hell, instead of calling them the Founding Fathers we'll just call 'em terrorists from now on.

Notice that the new class of crimes really is the just the same acts as already defined but with an added element of intent to influence government.

13 posted on 10/26/2001 10:10:13 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: Native American Female Vet
Today, we take an essential step in defeating terrorism, while protecting the constitutional rights of all Americans.

You know, I was positive he said "civil liberties" of all Americans.
I guess my hearing is worse than I thought...

This bill met with an overwhelming -- overwhelming agreement in Congress, because it upholds and respects the civil liberties guaranteed by our Constitution.
Oops...there it is. Hmmm...I'll take my constitutional rights, how about you?

14 posted on 10/26/2001 10:12:13 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Native American Female Vet
Self bump...
15 posted on 10/26/2001 10:15:32 AM PDT by Come get it
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To: Native American Female Vet
Well it finally happened. I only hope SCOTUS will strike down this garbage soon before the jackboots get the upper hand.
16 posted on 10/26/2001 10:17:31 AM PDT by AUgrad
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intent to influence government

I guess all Freepers are terrorists now. How many of us protested last fall? How many have written their congresscritters? Does writing your congresscritter qualify as 'intent to influence government' under any of these interpretations? How about protesting?
17 posted on 10/26/2001 10:19:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Abundy
Intent is everything.
Such as in the expression "criminal intent".
Someone must have "criminal intent" to be convicted of a "crime". Or such is my understanding.
18 posted on 10/26/2001 10:20:04 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Native American Female Vet
May God help us all. Not one thing in this new bill would have prevented 9/11, but what this new bill WILL do is usher in a police state. 1984 will be nothing in comparison to what this travesty of a bill will do.
19 posted on 10/26/2001 10:28:01 AM PDT by FreedomIsSimple
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To: Abundy
1) is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion; or to retaliate against government conduct;

If I have a scowl on my face would/could that be considered "intimidation"? If an e-mail to my Senator/Representative is "critical" could/would that be construed as "retaliation against government conduct"?
Seems somewhat vague to me, but what do I know?

20 posted on 10/26/2001 10:28:47 AM PDT by philman_36
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