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To: dobbyman
I think it is rather clear now that FDR intended to use the Pacific Fleet as bait. Stinnet's book, The Day of Deceit, makes a good case for the argument that FDR knew that the US had to take a real body blow before we would unite against the Axis Powers.
11 posted on 11/03/2001 3:30:32 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
Stinnett's book is pure, unadulterated GARBAGE. If you look at ANY of the MANY books done by trained cryptologists, including two of which I'm aware done by WW II cryptologists, you'd see that Stinnett simply lied. He (deliberately?) confused transcription with translation, translation with analysis, analysis with forwarding information, and forwarding information with receiving information.

He DID deliberately try to confuse the "Purple" code, which we knew about, with the Japanese code "N" that we had NOT broken; he lied about radio transmission at sea---post-war JAPANESE sources conform that they had not even left harbor at the time Stinnett supposedly finds radio transmissions from the Kido Butai task force.

28 posted on 11/04/2001 6:47:56 AM PST by LS
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To: RobbyS
"I think it is rather clear now that FDR intended to use the Pacific Fleet as bait. Stinnet's book, The Day of Deceit, makes a good case for the argument that FDR knew that the US had to take a real body blow before we would unite against the Axis Powers."

You can make a case for past civilization on Mars with enough spin and speculation. I refuse to believe an American president allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. I will never believe it.

37 posted on 11/04/2001 11:35:35 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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