[Pilsner]

Getsapo = GEhieme STAtts POliezi, or Secret State Police (forgive any spelling errors). It was charged with internal oppression, not operating abroad. Claiming the Gestapo intercepted a Churchill/FDR conversation is like claiming the FBI is monitoring calls between Saddam Hussien in Iraq and Kim in North Korea -- it betrays a fundamental misunderstanding about what security organ does what.

And another thing conspiracy fans. Even if you think FDR was trying to provoke a Japanese attack, why the hell would he want it to succede? Adm. Kimmel smashing a surprise Japanese attack 500 miles north of Pearl Harbor would have gotten us into the war just as surely.

[jamaksin]

From McCollum:

" ...overt act of war, so much the better."

From Marshall:

" ... if hostilities cannot comma repeat cannot be avoided the United States desires that Japan commit the first overt act stop this policy should not comma repeat not comma be construed as restricting you to a course of action that might jeopardize your defense top ...

So, in other words, Kimmel/Short ... absorb the "first blow."

So much for the Pacific sortie to "surprise" the Japanese Fleet ...