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To: aristeides
First, it is important to point out that Admiral Layton died before "And I Was There" was published. It was completed by Costello and Pineau. The pages you quote obviously came from the pen of Costello, not Layton nor Pineau. He has voiced some unfounded allegations of this nature in other publications while neither Layton nor Pineau have.

While it is nice to speculate what might have been in the Churchill message on 26 November 41, British records show that there were no JN-25B decrypts prior to 7 Dec. 41. OP-20-GYP-1 records show the same for the U.S. Navy. Actually, no JN-25B message ever spelled out the attack on Pearl Harbor. Thus, if there were a tip-off on Pearl Harbor in the Churchill message, where did it come from? You seem to have avoided that issue. Some conspirator theorists have speculated the Sorge ring obtained such information, but even if true that would have gone to Stalin not Churchill. Thus, I would suggest you hold off speculating what might have been in that message and find such information within the British government at that time.

Where did such tip-off information originate? How did it get to Churchill? If you can provide documentary evidence of such a source of a Pearl Harbor attack tip-off and it's transmission to Churchill, then you might consider voicing your blue sky speculations as to its inclusion in a certain message. Mind you there is no evidence of such information ever being received by Roosevelt either.

86 posted on 11/06/2001 3:46:57 PM PST by pjhoward
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To: pjhoward
How do you explain the U.S.'s suddenly dropping the idea of a modus vivendi for which we had been negotiating so hard in the preceding weeks?
87 posted on 11/06/2001 4:13:01 PM PST by aristeides
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