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Can We Do Without Saudi Oil?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 11/19/2001 | Irwin M. Stelzer

Posted on 11/10/2001 4:44:11 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: monkeyshine
you are a bad boy...:)

And your "vision" is swayed by your Sunday Mission.

61 posted on 11/10/2001 7:34:57 PM PST by d4now
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To: Pokey78
At the "present rate of consumption" when will all of the known oil reserves be consumed?
62 posted on 11/10/2001 7:37:06 PM PST by d4now
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To: Pokey78
SCROLL DOWN TO SEE WORLD PRODUCTION CHARTS BY COUNTRY
63 posted on 11/10/2001 7:39:46 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Pokey78
Ok, ok...

A quick commercial for the car I own. It is a hybrid gas-electric. But if you drove it you wouldn't even notice. You don't plug it in, you just put in regular gas. And after 700 miles all you do is stop at the gas station again and marvel at the 50-60 mpg you get.

Prius!

65 posted on 11/10/2001 7:44:42 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: d4now
My father worked for a oil service company & I grew up as "oil field trash", different state each school year and learning 1st hand what "oil people" are thought of.

I have lived since 1969 in the West Texas Oilfields, these proud people live in an economy that is governed by the whims of OPEC. The rest of the United States, by liberal media & tv, thinking we are all JR Ewing.

We have lost so many experienced oil "hands" and most have suffered by losing jobs & savings.

The rest of America needs to realize that we cannot allow our energy to be at the mercy of any foreign cartel.

We have alot of oil in America. That oil is taxed so much and profits are so low, there is very little incentive to compete with the cheap foreign oil.

66 posted on 11/10/2001 7:48:34 PM PST by loulou
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To: d4now
Sunday Mission

hmmmm...

hmmmm...

I can read a lot into that, ya know.

67 posted on 11/10/2001 7:49:49 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Carry_Okie
There is an alternative.

Thanks for the link. Got it bookmarked.

68 posted on 11/10/2001 7:50:40 PM PST by uglybiker
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To: loulou
then perhaps you could refresh my memory...

Didn't EXXON in Q4 of 2000 make a larger profit than any other company in the history of mankind?

69 posted on 11/10/2001 7:52:31 PM PST by d4now
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To: monkeyshine
LOL You make me laugh. Something I can never thank you for enough.

Still a huge smile.

You be careful out there, alright?

70 posted on 11/10/2001 7:55:59 PM PST by d4now
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To: d4now
Look at profits before then ---- when bottle water is cheaper that gasoline,,,duh!!!

You can look at a 1/4 profit, look at the profits from 1982, major bust....

71 posted on 11/10/2001 7:56:15 PM PST by loulou
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To: loulou
Excuse me......gasoline is cheaper than bottle water....sorry!
72 posted on 11/10/2001 7:57:20 PM PST by loulou
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To: loulou
When the U.S. economy is run on "water" then your argument might be worth it's weight in...well...water.
73 posted on 11/10/2001 8:08:10 PM PST by d4now
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To: monkeyshine
Screw Venezuela. Somebody else then.

You're forgetting the most quotable line of the entire article:

Our State Department is creative; surely, if called upon, it would be able to figure out an arrangement for operating the oilfields that would safeguard our supply and win the blessing of a revenue-hungry regime with a stake in the continued flow of oil. And surely such a regime, if it did not exist, could be invented.

That applies to hispanics just as well as arabs. Our involvement in Latin America over the past two hundred plus years proves this. Heck! We already have military stationed down there supposedly "fighting the war on drugs" next door in Columbia. Move the battle across the border and wipe out all parties involved. Then the U.S. can help the Venezuelans start over with a clean slate (one favorable to us, of course). We'd have a stable ally in the region, a more reliable source of oil, and the satisfation of scaring the bejeeszus out of all the little communistas in the area.

74 posted on 11/10/2001 8:09:33 PM PST by uglybiker
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To: loulou
So what if the world's supplies of crude oil run out? If there were no oil left in the world, I'm here to tell you that within 10 years Americans would have some alternative power supplies up and running, while the Mideast would still be pounding the sand in frustration. The issue isn't oil - the issue is what kind of country do we want to have? Do we want one where every slug and snail darter is valued more than human livelihoods? Do we have a country where individual skill and work are rewarded, or where we get buried alive under ridiculous gov't regulations? If you kill American enterpreneurship and inventiveness, all the oil in the world won't help. If American creativity is rewarded while the gov't steps out of the way, we will succeed even without oil.
75 posted on 11/10/2001 8:11:32 PM PST by ikanakattara
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To: Sabertooth
As the Iraqi minister said, what are they going to do, drink their oil?

Right on! Good post, Saber.

76 posted on 11/10/2001 8:13:20 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dennisw
Agreed.
77 posted on 11/10/2001 8:16:51 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ikanakattara
Bingo. You get the prize tonight.
78 posted on 11/10/2001 8:26:39 PM PST by d4now
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To: d4now
You people make me crazy. At the present rate of production ....what do we do with the radioactive waste a year from now? 5 years from now (when there's much more)? What will my grandchildren do? What will their grandchildren do? What will the people do 10,000 years from now - when English, or which ever symbol is designed to signify danger of the waste buried beneath, is no longer recognizable?

You are crazy all right, because you have swallowed the anti-nuke brainwashing sponsored by the oil companies throught their RICOnut front organizations. 20 years ago I thought as you do, until I did the homework. What do we do about the radioactive isotopes people breathe RIGHT NOW from combusted coal? There is more radioactivity released from coal in sheer tonnage than will ever be produced by reactors and a lot of it is inhaled or ingested directly into the body, not some theoretical scare story cooked up by someone with a grant dollar to hustle. One also has to consider particulates and other lovely byproducts of combustion from carbon monoxide, to NOX, formic acid...

There is no free ride, fella.

And if you haven't thought about it....If, in fact, Bin Laden does have a dirty nukes...where do you think the radioactive material came from?

Well it's WAY too late to do anything about that, isn't it? Were you out there putting up your money to retire those ancient Russian carbon pile reactors? Will you go running out there and beg North Korea to stop? So what does that have to do with domestic US reactors? Get a grip.

There are safer ways to produce "energy" but of course none of the big oil companies would profit from them so they haven't been a concern.

Most of which require more energy than they produce, especially photovoltaics. Look, I'm not going to spit out my total favored energy program here just for your benefit. Let's just say that it includes a mix of technologies including passive solar space and water heating (got a copper mine? Quarrying too, then there is the gas for the concrete...), possibly electrochromic windows (a lot of mining there too fella), fuel cells on propane for wider distribution (got a platinum mine? co-holders of BP already cornered that one), and nuclear for large scale centralized production.

What concerns me more than which technology is employed is that the assessment of risk is not objective, but political, and political decision-making serves the interests of those who buy the patronage. It is a corrupt and incompetent system. I would rather trust those who make a choice after they put up the insurance money than those who shoot off their mouths with a shrill and uninformed diatribe, forcing people to waste energy and time paying off rapacious attorneys and risking our security keeping the Saudis in power, and preparing to pay the currency transfer taxes to keep the UN awash in your money.

Sleep tight, Rockefeller loves you. Maurice will keep you safe from those nasty nukes...

79 posted on 11/10/2001 8:34:25 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Fred25
Great link! This combined with post #19 in this thread-Oil from Russia- I think foretells the future. The oil barons of the 21st century will be the Russians and former Soviet Asian countries. The Caspian Sea is the hot oil area right now. UNOCAL supposedly wants to build a pipeline from the Caspian to the Indian Ocean by way of----you guessed it, Afghanistan.

This undoubtedly will lead to some future war in which the Chinese will make a push for the Caspian reserves. The United States, Russia, and Western Europe will then have to defend those areas. The beat goes on.

I don't have much hope for any oil replacement anytime soon. The big oil corporations, the Wall Street gang, the automobile manufacturers, and the environmentalists all stand to lose if we change the status quo.

80 posted on 11/10/2001 8:45:39 PM PST by JDGreen123
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