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BUSH TO NAME JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AFTER LAWBREAKING ROBERT F. KENNEDY
Judicial Watch Press Release ^ | 11/17/01

Posted on 11/17/2001 12:26:01 PM PST by Rebeckie

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

11/17/2001

202-646-5172

BUSH TO NAME JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AFTER LAWBREAKING ROBERT F. KENNEDY

“FRIEND” TED KENNEDY CONVINCED G.W. TO HONOR BROTHER

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the non-partisan public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, was astonished to learn today that President Bush intends to name the Justice Department after the late Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy.

“The ethical and legal standards of the Bush administration will sink low if the President carries through with his plan of naming the nation’s top law enforcement agency after someone who spent his tenure in the Justice Department trampling on the civil rights of all Americans. It is widely known that Kennedy urged then FBI director J. Edgar Hoover to misuse FBI files to blackmail members of Congress to “overlook” his brother, President John F. Kennedy’s, affair with an East German spy. With the possible exception of John Mitchell and Janet Reno, I cannot think of a worse choice,” stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel, Larry Klayman.

The Justice Department’s own mission statement says “the Department represents the citizens of the United States in enforcing the law in the public interest” and, yet, Kennedy is perhaps remembered most for three things, the ‘Get Hoffa’ campaign, which ran roughshod over all legal procedures in a personal vendetta against one man, the wiretapping of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr., along with the aforementioned silencing of a congressional investigation into President John Kennedy’s affair with alleged East German spy Ellen Romisch.

Yankee legend Joe DiMaggio reportedly refused to shake Kennedy’s hand at Marilyn Monroe’s funeral because of his belief that he and his brother had something to do with her untimely death. Klayman opined, “Joltin’ Joe was right then and George W. Bush is wrong now. As for reports today in The Washington Post that George W. Bush has become a close friend of Senator Ted Kennedy- a politician who many believed murdered Mary Jo Kopeche and was instrumental in convincing Bush to name the Justice Department after his brother Robert…the President should learn to choose better people to be associated with,” Klayman added.


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To: Common Tator
Klayman is about parting the suckers from their money. Always has been. Always will be.

That Is It!
You Got It Nailed!
51 posted on 11/17/2001 3:14:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: equus
It happened while JFK was still in the Senate; and it wasn't Bobby Kennedy; it was his daddy.

This is the exact event where the phrase "scorched earth policy" was coined; the old man told them that if they exposed JFK that everybody was going down, too.

52 posted on 11/17/2001 3:14:12 PM PST by Howlin
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To: IM2Phat4U
crooked liberals

As in felons? For instance?

53 posted on 11/17/2001 3:26:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: equus
Supposedly he MARRIED her, right, while he was in the Navy.......I'm know that his daddy went up to the Hill and gave them chapter and verse so "his boy" could be the next president. I heard George Stephanopoulous, of all people, talking about it one day when "scorced earth" came up in some other context.
55 posted on 11/17/2001 4:20:58 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Rebeckie
RFK was killed by a Muslim. If they name the building after Bobby, might not some Muslims take offense? We can't risk that.
56 posted on 11/17/2001 4:37:55 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
So Teddy "murdered" Mary Jo Kopechne? That would mean he killed her with malice aforethought. We'll never know what really happened, but he may have just been drunk. I don't think he intended to kill her.

I think you can take it for granted that Edward was drunk. He had just been to a party where alcohol was flowing like wine (all right, all right). None of the political Kennedys, Jack, Bobby, or Teddy would be likely to come out of that environment sober.

And I doubt that Edward M started out with the intention of becoming a submarine commander. It just fell his lot when his Oldsmobile decided to plunge off Dyke bridge, no doubt of its own volition.

The thing about which a lot of us at the time were incredulous is that Edward M Kennedy left the vicinity of the 'accident', went back to Edgartown (how he got there is another question mark), and at no time prior to discovery of the drowned car reported what had happened to ANYONE who could have helped.

In fact, the evidence was that he seemed to be trying to prepare an alibi, asking some hotel help loudly about the time in order to establish his presence in Edgartown.

I still view Edward M Teddy Boy with total contempt.

But I don't care if the building is named after Bobby boy. He has achieved immortality in the public mind by being assassinated, and nothing will change the public perception.

57 posted on 11/17/2001 5:21:09 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie
Teddy couldn't go to the authorities right away--they might have tested his blood alcohol level. I believe he tried to get one of his flunkies to take the rap (to pretend that he had been the driver of the car, not Teddy). The whole thing was SOP for the Kennedy clan, but poor Mary Jo paid with her life for her involvement with that bunch.

Bobby wouldn't have gotten the nomination even with his victory in the California primary...Humphrey would have been the nominee anyway. Bobby would have gone back to being senator from New York and maybe the fatal party on Chappaquiddick Island would never have taken place.

58 posted on 11/17/2001 5:40:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: IM2Phat4U
" Those of you who put party ahead of principle "

So you aren't a loyal Republican or a Bush supporter, but you claim to be a conservative.

Since no rabid Libertarian would claim to be a conservative, that pretty well puts you in the McCain/Buchanan/Keyes group of sore losers.

What name were you previously posting under?

59 posted on 11/17/2001 6:20:39 PM PST by bayourod
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To: bayourod
Principle is the big word for Keyes folks. Buchananites rant on sovereignity and immigration. McCainiacs just rant that Bush is a weenie.

I vote for a Keyester, myself.

60 posted on 11/17/2001 6:31:26 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: deport
I assume that most people know that.
61 posted on 11/17/2001 6:31:39 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Grampa Dave
"Does anyone remember the recent picture of GW with hands on the back of the great whale, Ted Kennedy. Remember the stunned look that Ted had.

Well, rumor has it, that, GW, offered Teddy, to name the new building the Teddy Kennedy building. The only problem, it couldn't be name after anyone still alive!

This kind offer brought that stunned look out on Teddy's ample face!"

Maybe he was just drunk.

62 posted on 11/17/2001 6:36:38 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
You assume..... lol

Why don't you tell ol' larr not to assume and use the truth in his title.....

63 posted on 11/17/2001 6:36:50 PM PST by deport
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To: Diogenesis
Marilyn Monroe looks like a beached whale in that dress.
64 posted on 11/17/2001 6:38:38 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: deport
"You assume..... lol

Why don't you tell ol' larr not to assume and use the truth in his title.....

You speak as if Larry Klayman and I actually know each other or something.

65 posted on 11/17/2001 6:40:40 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Grampa Dave

66 posted on 11/17/2001 6:42:31 PM PST by deport
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To: Rebeckie
or something.
67 posted on 11/17/2001 6:43:41 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Just the name 'Robert Kennedy Justice Department Building' is insulting to the meaning and concept of justice, besides it sounding like a cruel joke. That building isn't fit to have Larry Klayman even step in it.
68 posted on 11/17/2001 6:46:23 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
I doubt he will.....
69 posted on 11/17/2001 6:48:23 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Whatever you say deport, or whatever the hell your name is.
70 posted on 11/17/2001 6:55:09 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie; Howlin; Miss Marple


President George W. Bush next week is expected to name the Justice Department
headquarters after Robert F. Kennedy, a Democratic U.S. attorney general and
brother of former President John Kennedy. "He is expected to sign a document
essentially dedicating the Justice Department building for Robert F. Kennedy," a
White House official said on November 16, 2001. The official had no further
information on the decision. The Justice Department building is shown in a
November, 1996 file photo. REUTERS/Robert Giroux-

71 posted on 11/17/2001 6:57:45 PM PST by deport
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To: Howlin
I reply as often as I can. I go to school, I am taking 18 credit hours, I have a life, therefore I don't always reply in a timely manner.
72 posted on 11/17/2001 6:58:27 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
Tut tut tut.....
73 posted on 11/17/2001 6:59:37 PM PST by deport
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To: Miss Marple
I don't see why I need to defend myself to you. But what you said really bothered me, for your testimony to my personality would never stand up in a court of law. You have never personally met me, don't even know what I look like...I am practically a straight A student and have practiced investigative journalism in other areas. I just firmly believe in JW and Larry Klayman and post their press releases because I believe in their quest for the truth, regardless of parisan preference.
74 posted on 11/17/2001 7:03:54 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: bayourod
"You must be a close relative of Klayman to continue defending him on a conservative forum."

I don't know why everyone seems to think that I am either related to Klayman or know him, that assumption is simply ridiculous. I find it hard to believe that I constantly have to defend Larry, a fellow conservative, on a conservative forum. I just believe in what he stands for.

75 posted on 11/17/2001 7:07:09 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
Excuse me, Rebeckie, but if I remember correctly you were born long after Robert Kennedy was assassinated. You have no personal knowledge of those times, and you are simply parroting Larry Klayman's news release.

In 1968 I was living in West Berlin as an Air Force wife, pregnant with my son. The Viet Nam War was in full swing, there were troops in the streets of DC, riots on almost all campuses, and the cities of Europe were in turmoil. The democrats were about to nominate Hubert Humprhrey, who had supported Lyndon Johnson's conduct of the war.

Robert F. Kennedy, only 5 years removed from his brother's assassination, stepped forward to make a run for the presidency. Was he a less than perfect person? Certainly. However, in those times, no one knew about any of this...they only knew that the brother of the slain president was running. It was electrifying, and I firmly believe he would have won the nomination if he hadn't been slain, and would no doubt have won the presidency as well. When the news of his assassination reached Berlin, the street in fron of my apartment, Martin Luther Strasse, filled with a hundred thousand people marching to John F. Kennedy Platz, tears streaming down their faces.

Now, years later, we know that he wasn't the golden boy the press portrayed. But the general public, particularly those my age, do not remember anything about him except a promise that was never fulfilled. Bill O'Reilly lists him as his most admired politician.

Now, given this background, and understanding that President Bush is my age, NOT yours, I can full well understand why he would grant this favor to pathetic Ted Kennedy, who has never fulfilled the promise of the Kennedy dream. It is a kindness to an old man, it does no one any harm, and if some people choose to admire the mythical version of Robert Kennedy, well, there are worse things.

Perhaps you will now understand why President Bush is doing this, and why Larry's rant is without merit and in fact is ludicrous.

76 posted on 11/17/2001 7:11:03 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Rebeckie
What in the world did I say about your personality? That deport was confusing you with FACTS? That they don't teach research any more at college?

If you are an investigative journalism major, I suggest you use those skills outside the classroom. This is a press release and complaint without merit. President Bush can name the Justice Department for Barney the Dinosaur, for all that it matters in the scheme of things. And he would have that right as President of the United States.

77 posted on 11/17/2001 7:17:56 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
"Now, given this background, and understanding that President Bush is my age, NOT yours, I can full well understand why he would grant this favor to pathetic Ted Kennedy, who has never fulfilled the promise of the Kennedy dream. It is a kindness to an old man, it does no one any harm, and if some people choose to admire the mythical version of Robert Kennedy, well, there are worse things.

Oh, yeah, and I guess that I forgot that you were the type to parrot the "I'm older and wiser than you, therefore in the world according to myself, my opinion supercedes yours." Glad to see that you understand the psyche behind George W. Bush's political moves and his mode of compassionate capitulation. Well, I guess we can all say that the world is now a better place because in the world of FreeRepublic, everyone is older and wiser than the stupid college student.

78 posted on 11/17/2001 7:20:00 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Miss Marple
Not to worry. It's amazing how time seems to change a person's perspective. I suspect when she has double her age and looks back at things she'll view them with a different meaning. I remember how things changed in my life. It's a part of growing up and maturing.
79 posted on 11/17/2001 7:21:37 PM PST by deport
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To: Rebeckie
To each thing a time and a place......
80 posted on 11/17/2001 7:23:15 PM PST by deport
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To: Miss Marple
"What in the world did I say about your personality? That deport was confusing you with FACTS? That they don't teach research any more at college?"

And since you attend the same college as me and know the core curriculum and all of the class projects and papers that I have completed, you just know because you sound like you have just completed Logic 101 and are "trying" to hone your new skills.

81 posted on 11/17/2001 7:24:01 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: deport
"Not to worry. It's amazing how time seems to change a person's perspective. I suspect when she has double her age and looks back at things she'll view them with a different meaning. I remember how things changed in my life. It's a part of growing up and maturing.

Ah, the wisdom in here is just so permeable.

82 posted on 11/17/2001 7:27:36 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
I find it hard to believe that I constantly have to defend Larry, a fellow conservative, on a conservative forum. I just believe in what he stands for.

He's not a conservative and we all know what he stands for. He is a pathetic self absorbed shyster who sued his own mother.

83 posted on 11/17/2001 7:30:39 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Another older and wiser Freeper to come to the rescue.
84 posted on 11/17/2001 7:31:57 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
Older and wiser accounts for a lot. Respecting that will take you far.
85 posted on 11/17/2001 7:33:06 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Rebeckie

Don't you just love it?....... It seems to gush from you also.

86 posted on 11/17/2001 7:33:29 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Hey, I never said that it didn't.
87 posted on 11/17/2001 7:35:02 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
But don't you just love it?.......

Did you ever figure out why on a conservative forum you have to defend ol' larr?

88 posted on 11/17/2001 7:38:10 PM PST by deport
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To: Rebeckie
Klayman needs to learn to choose his battles. From what I have read, Bobby Kennedy worked really "gung-ho"for Joe McCarthy's committee against Communism, along with then Rep. Richard Nixon. However, when JFK was getting ready to run for Pres., and the media (and McCarthy's own aggressive habits)had made McCarthy very unpopular with the public, Papa Joe called Bobby off. Later, Bobby was after the mafia,too, though there was pretty good proof of a deal between JFK/Joe and the M.The M.was reportedly mad as hell with Bobby

I guess Bobby was a Kennedy first, and atty. gen. after that,so he tried to make deals for his brother.

Anyway, I would just like to see Larry Klayman pick one good fight and try to win it. I think he likes to keep his name in the news so he can solicit contributions.He seems to be mostly mouth.

vaudine

89 posted on 11/17/2001 7:41:24 PM PST by vaudine
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To: deport
Yes, I do understand your point of view. But what I don't believe however, are the personal attacks that deluge the forum about Klayman. Look, we are never going to agree on this one and that is fine with me. But the crimes of Bill Clinton are going to have some startling affects in the future and I believe that many of us conservatives are going to wish that we would have done more about the Clinton Crimes. And yes, I do understand that this has nothing to do with this particular article that I posted. But in a broad prospective, I do not like all these personal attacks on Larry because they distract us from the real issues.
90 posted on 11/17/2001 7:42:55 PM PST by Rebeckie
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To: Rebeckie
You know, I am trying to remember what I was like at your age, and I will bet I was as sure of my righteousness as you are now. I would encourage you, however, to understand that when you go out into the working world, a humble attitude will get a young person a lot further than your abrasive one is currently doing.

You are managing to insult a lot of people and are not arguing the facts.

AND, if Larry Klayman is so interested in Clinton's crimes, why is he wasting time with attacking Bush over petty things like this?

91 posted on 11/17/2001 7:47:11 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: deport
I have been very busy in the last few weeks on Judicial Watch client matters, but have wanted to write this article. Before I could do so, several military and national security commentators have expressed their views that the present military campaign in Afghanistan is not only going poorly, but is compromising America's credibility around the globe. I agree!

For as the United States continues to pound sand in the desert, with Osama bin Laden and his Taliban accomplices holed up in caves and civilian villages and mosques – all of which, for so-called political reasons, are off-limits to U.S. bombing – the president of the United States has been engaged in a war of words with them, with each side giving its rendition, on television and radio, of not only the progress of the war, but making almost daily threats against each other. The spectacle of this "tit for tat," coupled with our military ineffectuality, has not only placed bin Laden and the Taliban on the same plane as the president of the United States, it has undercut George W. Bush's credibility and promise to the American people and the world that these terrorists would be dealt with severely.

American prestige and power has been significantly reduced. Our timidity to act decisively, coupled with the populace's fear of the unknown, has brought the country to its knees. This sad fact cannot be overlooked simply because tearful Americans proudly and correctly display their flag in exhibitions of love for the country and our fallen brothers and sisters.

The U.S. military, hamstrung by the political calculus of the Bush administration's "proportionate response" to the World Trade Center and Pentagon bombings – all in an attempt to placate so-called moderate Arab states who supply American tycoons with imported oil – has in characteristic "Vietnamesque" fashion spewed forth propaganda about how well the air war is going. It has boasted that bin Laden has a noose around his neck, and that his operations have been disrupted.

But how can this be so when, in almost the same breath, the commander in chief is warning the nation that a huge bio-chemical or nuclear attack could be imminent, our vice president (who is the de facto commander in chief) is "holed up" and in hiding in an undisclosed location outside of Washington, D.C., and members of Congress are putting forth emergency legislation to clarify how to choose representatives of Congress should it lose 25 percent or more of its members? And why has Vice President Dick Cheney said, on more than one occasion, in uncharacteristic pessimism, if not a sense of defeat, that this may be the first war where casualties at home exceed those overseas. If bin Laden has been stopped, even temporarily, why then the predictions of doom?

Our limited military effort in Afghanistan, where bin Laden and Taliban leaders remain on the loose, has given them the time, and wherewithal, to mount a huge counterattack on the United States. The president and vice president know this, and that is why they speak of and are preparing the nation for imminent disaster. Obviously, the Bush administration and their Republican colleagues in Congress do not want to be blamed at the ballot booth for what is now likely in store.

By all means, let's take military advice from Larry Klayman.

92 posted on 11/17/2001 7:52:58 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Rebeckie
.......But in a broad prospective, .......

In a broad prospective, ol' larr is part of the issue. Press release after press release, suit after suit, all in the name of chasing more money for his 501c3, imo. He can go about his business of legal work without all the hoopla. How many other law firms do you see issuing press release after press release when they file a minor paper with the court or for that matter when the President does something he doesn't like? ol' larr is his own biggest enemy, imo. If he'd go about the job he has chosen without the circus like atsmophere then he'd not be ridiculed, I'd guess.

93 posted on 11/17/2001 7:53:10 PM PST by deport
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To: Rebeckie

It's...uh...probably part of some northeastern electoral PR strategy.

94 posted on 11/17/2001 7:53:48 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: Rebeckie
That building isn't fit to have Larry Klayman even step in it.

You really need to get a hold of yourself. Klayman would be laughed out of that building.

What proof do you and Larry have that RFK was a CROOK? You may not like his politics -- most of us don't -- but what, exactly, was his crime?

95 posted on 11/17/2001 7:54:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Rebeckie
Glad to see that you understand the psyche behind George W. Bush's political moves and his mode of compassionate capitulation.

You are totally busted. Not just a Klayman supporter, but an honest to goodness Bush hater.

96 posted on 11/17/2001 7:57:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
She's also a 19 year old, from down state Ill., who fancies that she knows everything.

You've just nailed her.

97 posted on 11/17/2001 8:00:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Rebeckie
I do not like all these personal attacks on Larry because they distract us from the real issues.

Then Larry should go back to his other cases and stop issuing these stupid press releases. When he puts them out, and you post them as fact, you can bet your butt somebody on this forum is going to come along and correct you.

For instance, this remark:

It is widely known that Kennedy urged then FBI director J. Edgar Hoover to misuse FBI files to blackmail members of Congress to “overlook” his brother, President John F. Kennedy’s, affair with an East German spy.

is an out and out lie. And it just goes to show Klayman doesn't know what's he talking about.

98 posted on 11/17/2001 8:01:34 PM PST by Howlin
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Larry Klayman apparently doesn't even understand that it isn't the department that's being named after RFK. This isn't the first indication that he's not to be taken seriously, but it's not helping his reputation as a clown in a gray suit.

Beyond that, I didn't see last night and I STILL don't see why this news item would cause anyone to break out in hives. This is a small gesture on the part of the President. So soon we forget what life was like with Bill Clinton in power; this petty "OH NOW THAT'S IT! I'LL NEVER VOTE FOR BUSH AGAIN!!" stuff just makes me shake my head.

99 posted on 11/17/2001 8:02:18 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Howlin; deport; Miss Marple
the wiretapping of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr

If I'm not mistaken, it was J. Edgar Hoover who had those King tapes and played them for Bobby Kennedy. I could be wrong on that, but I think that's the way it went.

100 posted on 11/17/2001 8:04:11 PM PST by Howlin
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