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To: WhiskeyPapa
Ok, Walt, I'll join the cut & paste fest:

"I judge Mr. Lincoln by his acts, his violations of the Law, his overthrow of Liberty in the Northern States. I judge Mr. Lincoln by his words, his deeds, and so judging him, I am unwilling to trust Abraham Lincoln with the future of this country." - Wendell Phillips (1864)

"I supported President Lincoln. I believed his war policy would be the only way to save the country, but I see my mistake. I visited Washington a few weeks ago and I saw the corruption of the present Administration and so long as Abraham Lincoln and his Cabinet are in power so long will the war continue, and for what? For the preservation of the Consititution of the Union? No! But for the sake of politicians and governmental contractors." - JP Morgan

I'll hold to my belief that this man was no Christian and had an agenda that usurped the constitution our forefathers created. I'll give you a bone, he probably thought he was doing the right thing.

446 posted on 11/24/2001 5:38:45 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I'll hold to my belief that this man was no Christian and had an agenda that usurped the constitution our forefathers created.

Only God can know what lies in a man's heart.

As for the other, you are welcome to your belief, but it is not supported in the record. Lincoln's beliefs on the nature of the government were very close to what Washington, Madison, and the first two Chief Justices thought; but you are welcome to your opinion.

Walt

448 posted on 11/24/2001 6:31:53 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: stainlessbanner
"I judge Mr. Lincoln by his acts, his violations of the Law, his overthrow of Liberty in the Northern States. I judge Mr. Lincoln by his words, his deeds, and so judging him, I am unwilling to trust Abraham Lincoln with the future of this country." - Wendell Phillips (1864)

Listen, I'm busy watching my Tennessee Volunteers slam dunk Vandy.

But if you stop and think, you'll know that Wendell Phillips was one of those abolitionists you suggested that Lincoln was sucking up to.

Your position is nonsense. It is not even logical.

Walt

455 posted on 11/24/2001 2:29:27 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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