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Portland, Ore., Police Refuse to Cooperate With Federal Questioning
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| 11/21/01
Posted on 11/21/2001 7:03:42 AM PST by Psalm 73
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To: 74dodgedart
"...round them up and put them in iternment camps..."
No, you don't say. Tell me more Mr. History lesson, because I'm an idiot.
We are not talking about internment, we are INTERVIEWING them!
Jeez, did I stutter, or do you just read what you want to read?
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:07:59 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: hogwaller
"Only liberals and socialists back the power of the Federal Government over that of the states."
Oh, cute - did you make that up all by yourself?
What about "to provide for a common defense"?
The rights of the state do not supercede the US Constitution.
Perhaps you think that a memeber of the US armed forces on a military base in your state are also either "liberal" or " socialists"
Do you prefer anarchy?
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:15:11 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
To: Psalm 73
States Rights should always precede Federal law, except for the powers delegated to the Federal Government. However the commie scum police chief is using his own interpretation of what constitutes a crime and reasonable interviews. Because his hatred of hiw own country exceeds his common sense.
To: hogwaller
"Those who would give up their liberty for safety deserve neither."
We're not talking about motorcycle helmets here, we are talking about the integrity of our nation, which just happens to be under attack from these terrorists, or is that all part of the New World Order conspiracy?
Man, lighten up - as long as we have 80 million American citizens under arms, we have our liberty (as long as you don't live in New Jersey).
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11/21/2001 8:22:15 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
To: hogwaller
Maybe because Ashcroft is overstepping his bounds and Oregonians have guts?Oregon (Portland and Eugene) is the world headquarters for environmental terrorism, the Earth Liberation Front...
Liberal Oregon jealously protects these environmental terrorists. Why should they treat other America-haters differently?
To: CyberSpartacus
"except for the powers delegated to the Federal Government."
If that's not what I said, it's what I meant.
A state must respect the US constitution, I know that.
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:26:19 AM PST
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Psalm 73
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To: Psalm 73
Oregon is a renegade state: first they force other states to tolerate their killer doctors traveling around, second they force other states to deal with terror that Oregon is stamping as unrelated.
Oregon is playing with secession. This terrorism business ain't over and is getting ugly. Hope the Prez and Ashkroft are strong enough to withstand the PC that breaks the country appart. We have already problems with Mexico allowing killers to go into the US, we do not need Oregon to breed them on US soil.
To: Conservative
"Liberal Oregon jealously protects these environmental terrorists. Why should they treat other America-haters differently?"
Ouch, ya' mean these environmental terrorists and Libertarians have something in common?
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:33:56 AM PST
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Psalm 73
To: hogwaller; Psalm 73
The right of the state imply duties of the state toward other states. I'd hate to see killers in Oregon running free to harass other states. Yet with allowing murdering suicide doctorers and police non-cooperatiion with homeland defense, Oregon has crossed the fine line between rights and dereliction of duty. We do not need terror states in the US. N'ough said.
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: All
"But the law does not allow us to go out and arbitrarily interview people whose only offense is immigration or citizenship ..." Several posters seem to think they're talking about illegal immigrants. That's not what was stated. In effect, the Feds wanted anyone who was a male, within a certain age range and from the middle east to be "interviewed." Kinda like interviewing everybody who posts on FR 'cause they might be subversive.
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:40:42 AM PST
by
oldfart
To: hogwaller
"The rights of the state do not supercede the US Constitution."
10th Amendment.:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
This is semantics. The states cannot make laws that run contrary to those in the Constitution.
They cannot make treaties with other nations, cannot mint thier own currency, etc.
They cannot allow the owning of slaves, and must be allowed defend the (Constitutional) rights of the very young (pre-birth babies).
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:43:31 AM PST
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Psalm 73
To: Psalm 73
The Federal Govt. are the master's of the 'if you don't help us out, we won't help you out' policy. Now the tables are being turned on them.....and I love it.
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:45:19 AM PST
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Nate505
Comment #36 Removed by Moderator
To: Psalm 73
Somehow, I have the feeling that if the subject were: guns, wetlands, spotted owls, "homophobia" or any of a number of left-wing causes, the Portland Police Dept. would be front and center in the investigation into "suspicious activity."
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11/21/2001 8:46:30 AM PST
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LJLucido
To: hogwaller
"Only time will tell. Hope I'm wrong and you're right."
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly share my ammo clips and rations with you, because it will be partly my fault.
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posted on
11/21/2001 8:48:12 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
To: Psalm 73
We are not talking about internment, we are INTERVIEWING them! The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Interviewing Japanese in 1941 didn't do any good.
To: LJLucido
Somehow, I have the feeling that if the subject were: guns, wetlands, spotted owls, "homophobia" or any of a number of left-wing causes, the Portland Police Dept. would be front and center in the investigation into "suspicious activity." Somehow, I have the feeling if this artocle was about Janet Reno instead of Ashcroft we would have a Freeper stampede condeming the actions of the Fed gov't.
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