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All BCS College Bowl Computer Models Are Out-Nebraska remains #4 barely , Texas #3 (BYU 12 )
College BCS.com ^ | November 26, 2001 | Computer Football Rankings

Posted on 11/26/2001 11:25:33 AM PST by codebreaker

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To: Lee'sGhost
Anybody know for sure what happens to Colorado should they beat Texas?

They will end up 2 places below Nebraska. /sarcasm

21 posted on 11/26/2001 12:01:48 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: howardl
About the BCS

Starting in 1998, the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) has determined the Division I-A National Champion in football. A year ago, Oklahoma captured the 2000 national title defeating Florida State 13-2 in the FedEx Orange Bowl. In the BCS' first season in 1998, Tennessee defeated Florida State, 23-16, in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl to claim the national title. A year later, it was Florida State's turn as the Seminoles topped Virginia Tech 46-29 in the Nokia Sugar Bowl for their second national title in seven years.

The BCS, which runs through the 2005 regular season and 2006 bowl season, consists of the Rose Bowl presented by AT&T, Nokia Sugar Bowl, FedEx Orange Bowl and the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. Conferences with automatic berths include the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and the Southeastern Conferences.

The BCS also notes the importance of regional consideration regarding team selection. Specifically, as participating members of the BCS, the four BCS Bowls will host the following conference champions in the years the national championship game is not played at their site. Regional consideration tie-ins include the ACC or Big East champion in the FedEx Orange Bowl, the SEC champion in the Nokia Sugar Bowl, the Big Ten and the Pac-10 champion in the Rose Bowl presented by AT&T and the Big 12 champion in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.

Should a BCS Bowl's regional tie-in champion be ranked number one or two in the final BCS standings, when such bowl is not hosting the national championship game, the number one or two-ranked team shall move to the national championship game and the Bowl shall select a replacement team from the BCS pool of eligible teams. The pool will consist of any Division I-A team that is ranked among the Top 12 in the final BCS standings or has achieved nine wins during the regular season excluding NCAA-exempted contests.

In 2001, the four BCS Bowls combined to reach a record television audience of 127 million viewers. The average attendance for the games was 77,765. Overall attendance for all bowl games increased 7.6 percent to 1,291,557.

Through a conference revenue sharing plan, the BCS group will distribute over $40 million to non-participating BCS institutions during its 8-year history. Those monies go to Division I-A and I-AA conferences in support of the game of college football. Additionally, the BCS distributes $100,000 per year to the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame for calculating and administering the BCS Standings.

This coming season, BCS participants will receive between $11.78-14.67 million depending on the conference affiliation of the at-large participants. Should the at-large participants come from outside the original BCS conferences -- ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 or SEC -- those participants will receive $11.78 million. If one or both at-large selections come from within the original BCS group, the first conference participant shall receive $11.78 million and the second participant from that same conference shall receive $6 million. The remaining dollars (the difference between $11.78 million and $6 million) will be split among the originating BCS conferences that have just one participant.

 BCS TITLE GAME RESULTS
1998 Season
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Tennessee d. Florida State 23-16
1999 Season
Nokia Sugar Bowl: Florida State d. Virginia Tech 46-29
2000 Season
FedEx Orange Bowl: Oklahoma d. Florida State 13-2

BCS FUTURE SCHEDULE
2001 Season
January 1, 2002 (5 p.m. ET) -- Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
January 1, 2002 (8:30 p.m. ET) -- Nokia Sugar Bowl
January 2, 2002 (8 p.m. ET) -- FedEx Orange Bowl
January 3, 2002 (8 p.m. ET) -- Rose Bowl presented by AT&T (Title Game)

2002 Season: Tostitos Fiesta Bowl (Title Game)
2003 Season: Nokia Sugar Bowl (Title Game)
2004 Season: FedEx Orange Bowl (Title Game)
2005 Season: Rose Bowl presented by AT&T (Title Game)

22 posted on 11/26/2001 12:02:30 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: WesG
Call back after Saturday. The winner of the Florida-Tennessee game will easily have a better strength of schedule than Nebraska. The game was rescheduled from September 15 or your point would already be bogus. Miami should rise some too in SOS; if they win and Colorado loses, they could pass Nebraska.
23 posted on 11/26/2001 12:05:04 PM PST by FirstFlaBn
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To: codebreaker
I think that even if BYU wins its last two games, there is really no way that they will play in a BCS Bowl. Nebraska, Texas and Colorado would would have to collectively lose two games for BYU to be given the nod. Based on strength of schedule, totally fair although in BYU's case, not totally in their control. Based on only six conferences offering a golden ticket to the dance, very political.

I hope that the number one team at the end of this season will play BYU in a kick-off classic to start the next season, that would be a good 'championship' game.

24 posted on 11/26/2001 12:07:13 PM PST by scottiewottie
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To: Wrigley
Yes, if you click on the link there is an explanantion. #1 and #2 play for the title regardless. Each of the six major conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC) have their champions go to one of the four BCS bowls. Then there are two at large bids that can't both be from the same conference and must have nine Division I victories.

So far, Miami, Illinois, Oregon and Maryland have guaranteed spots. The SEC and Big 12 will have championship games to determine their champion. Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Texas and Colorado are still alive for these spots.

Nebraska, Oklahoma, BYU and Stanford (if they win Saturday)can qualify for at large bids. Florida, Tennessee, Texas and Colorado can also make it as an at large if they don't win the conference title.

As for which bowl they will go to, #1 and #2 will go to the Rose Bowl. The Orange Bowl is tied to the ACC (Maryland), The Sugar Bowl is tied to the SEC. The Fiesta Bowl is tied to the Big 12. The Rose Bowl is normally tied to the Pac 10 and Big 10. The Fiesta Bowl would like to take the Rose Bowl's Pac 10 vs Big 10 matchup if possible.

25 posted on 11/26/2001 12:09:51 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Engine82
As a BYU fan, I agree. Certainly this year they would be up to the task, but for the last ten years?? No! If they were in the SEC, BYU would have enough money to play with the big boys, and money talks.
26 posted on 11/26/2001 12:15:29 PM PST by scottiewottie
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To: codebreaker
Glad to see the Loser Wolverines dropped out of contention from a BCS bowl game after their devestating defeat, in the (ahem) "Big House", at the hands of my Beloved Buckeyes.

Woody would be proud - Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust still works!

27 posted on 11/26/2001 12:16:02 PM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: JohnMac
Actually I'm a Vanderbilt guy whose team got spanked by UT Saturday

Hopefully Ole Miss can get back on track and beat someone on Saturday. It might be close if our defense is MIA as in the last 3 games.

Eli for Heisman...next year

28 posted on 11/26/2001 12:16:34 PM PST by Basil314
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To: JohnMac
Texas, Nebraska and Oregon given their one loss and relative ease of schedule, don't belong in the top five.

You forgot one loss Florida. It's SOS is worse than Nebraska and only marginally beter than Oregon, so they don't belong in the top 5 either. ( NU = 17, Fla = 22, Ore =25 )

This must be your top 5...

1. Miami
2. BYU
3. Tenn
4. blank
5. blank

29 posted on 11/26/2001 12:17:56 PM PST by F-117A
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To: JohnMac
After a 62 to 36 loss this late in the season, bias has nothing to do with it.

I agree. You have to wonder just a little about a system where a team not playing for its own conference championship is actually ranked ahead of a team that just whipped its behind and IS playing for the conference championship.

30 posted on 11/26/2001 12:19:45 PM PST by jpl
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To: JohnMac
Excuse me... I thought you were talking about strength-of-schedule. The timing of a win or loss has nothing to do with overall strength of schedule. Which is what you started commenting about.....
31 posted on 11/26/2001 12:21:03 PM PST by WesG
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To: JohnMac
"Texas, Nebraska and Oregon given their one loss and relative ease of schedule, don't belong in the top five."

Given that Texas and Nebraska are members of the Big 12, it's no surprise that they have a loss recorded! Relative ease of schedule my foot. If only Miami had it so easy, they wouldn't even be in the top 10. The Big 12 is probably the toughest football conference by far! Four members in the top ten, and 2-3 others in and out of the top 25 all year. Give me a break!

32 posted on 11/26/2001 12:22:14 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Tall_Texan
Nebraska, Oklahoma, BYU and Stanford (if they win Saturday)can qualify for at large bids. Florida, Tennessee, Texas and Colorado can also make it as an at large if they don't win the conference title.

From a pure money draw, BYU in Arizona would be the best ticket. Doesn't mean they are the best team, but for the money it is a good idea. But BYU has two tough games. Mississippi State has SEC pride on the line and Hawaii, like Utah, loves to play spoiler. Hawaii lives to play BYU, all other games are just wasting time. BYU must win and win big or eligibility would knock them out of consideration.

33 posted on 11/26/2001 12:23:44 PM PST by scottiewottie
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Poooooooorrrrrrr Soon-ERS!

Sorry, that was bad sportsmanship, but it felt SO good! That having been said, Colorado could very well beat Texas this weekend. Glad that I'm not a betting man. They may be playing the best ball in the country, but an opening game loss to Fresno State(decided in the final minute) will virtually eliminate them from playing for the nat'l champ. Just goes to show what a sick stupid joke the Bull Crap System is, WE NEED A PLAYOFF, otherwise it is a Marxist system, based on popularity, emotion, myths, and subjectivity, not facts(actual head to head games). But hey, guess that's payback for Colorado's bogus nat'l championship(can you say 5th down? 2 losses and 1 tie that season, and a phantom clip in the Orange Bowl).

But if the Longhorns do win, given the present system they have a better claim than Florida to play in the Rose. A loss to the defending Nat'l Champs, versus a loss to a mediocre Auburn, they should never have jumped Texas. Florida has always been somewhat fraudelent, when's the last time in the regular season that they played a good team outside of conference or the state of Florida? Sure Texas non-conference schedule was down this year, but they did have North Carolina, a top 10 team when scheduled, and one that beat FSU handily and is bowl bound. Big 12 is better than SEC this year. But like Notre Dame, tie goes to Florida teams. Remember how last year so many in the media were wondering how Oklahoma could in any way keep up with oh so mighty FSU? But at least FSU will usually schedule a quality non-conference opponent, and isn't afraid to travel to places such as NJ and Michigan. Same for Miami, lame conference notwithstanding, they'll go all the way to Seattle. That's something I've always respected in Michigan and Notre Dame, and usually Texas and Tennessee. But not Florida(who dropped Miami). Even Nebraska upgraded its non-conference. And no crying about how tough the SEC is, since Tennessee handles it and travels to places such as Syracuse and South Bend. So if you can't already tell, I have no respect for the Florida program, and will root for any team BUT them, even Miami. When they quit hiding and trade a game against the Poor Blind Sisters U. in the Swamp for a road trip to Oregon, Stanford, or UCLA, I'll change my tune.

34 posted on 11/26/2001 12:24:33 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: codebreaker
The BCS is a steaming pile.

No way they should have only dropped two spots after suffering such a humiliating defeat.

35 posted on 11/26/2001 12:29:43 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: F-117A
You forget that Nebraska has played all of its games while Florida has at least one(#4 Tennessee) and probably two(LSU or Auburn). IMHO, if Florida beats UT, plays Auburn and beats them soundly, UF should jump Miami to #1. But it wont happen. It should, because Miami will have beaten relatively nobody. But it wont. Most of the country is biased against Florida(and Notre Dame).
36 posted on 11/26/2001 12:30:09 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: Bikers4Bush
It's messed up for another reason. A loss at the end of the season is more devastating than a loss at the beginning of the season. Not as bad as the Coaches Polls though.

If Nebraska had lost the first game instead of this game, they might be #2 rather than #4.

37 posted on 11/26/2001 12:33:33 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: FreeTally
Most of the country is biased against Florida(and Notre Dame).

With good reason, everyone hates someone who regularly gets special treatment and then whines in the rare instance that they are treated like everyone else. Its called tie goes to Notre Dame(and now Florida teams), just ask any Michigan State fan with a long memory. But at least Notre Dame isn't afraid of a tough non-conference game outside of its state. And how many teams lose in November and then get a second chance in a bowl to beat that same team for the nat'l championship? That was utterly bogus.

38 posted on 11/26/2001 12:36:29 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
But if the Longhorns do win, given the present system they have a better claim than Florida to play in the Rose. A loss to the defending Nat'l Champs, versus a loss to a mediocre Auburn, they should never have jumped Texas.

Take a look at Texas' schedule. They didnt have to play Nebraska or K State. They got the "easy draw" from the Big 12 this year. If UF plays AU in the SEC championship, and beats them soundly, will you change your mind?

Florida has always been somewhat fraudelent, when's the last time in the regular season that they played a good team outside of conference or the state of Florida?

When's the last time that the SEC was not one of the top two conferences? Not in recent history, maybe never. Oh, and they played Marshall, who only lost to Florida(went 10-1). Seems Marshall is ranked higher than FSU this year. Are the pollsters wrong?

Sure Texas non-conference schedule was down this year, but they did have North Carolina, a top 10 team when scheduled, and one that beat FSU handily and is bowl bound.

North Carolina has not been ranked in the top 10 for several years. They were ranked in the top 25 once this year. The otehr non-conference teams Texas played have losing records I believe.

Florida beat a good Marshall team. They destroyed LSU and South Carolina on the road in two places where it is tough to play. Georgia is no slouch, and neither is Auburn. FSU is always tough regardless of record. Texas lost to the best team they played, and unless UT beats Florida Saturday, you wont be able to say that about the Gators.

39 posted on 11/26/2001 12:42:10 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
You forget that Nebraska has played all of its games while Florida has at least one(#4 Tennessee) and probably two(LSU or Auburn). IMHO, if Florida beats UT, plays Auburn and beats them soundly, UF should jump Miami to #1.

Nope, haven't forgot. I'm simply stating the situation as it is today. Also, if Florida and Miami win out Miami will probably stay #1.

P.S. Can name a team that was National Champs, but not State Champs?

40 posted on 11/26/2001 12:46:22 PM PST by F-117A
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