Interesting comment. Was it the lack of "romance,"in the modern sense?
It's SaurOn!!!
This one can't miss, in my book. Seeing the silly animated version 20+ years ago was on par to my seeing VH with David Lee Roth. With computer technology, we are gonna be blown away.
Mini-reviews:
[source 1:] saw it. beats harry by a long shot, better acting, more engaging world. but i'm still reeling. it's one of the most visually imaginitive films i've ever seen, but the violence and the overarching darkness is ultimatly numbing
...ok- by god, i've got more info. my source says that FOTR is just a tremendous movie experience. visually, like nothing seen before. you are part of tolkien's/pj's world for nearly 3 hours. on the other hand, the many light moments from the book are largely gone, and the respites from danger (riveldell, lothlerian), while beautifully rendered, are fleeting. there is a constant sense of foreboding, and the music is operatic, never letting you forget it. the violence mentioned is very intense & repetitive. these were some of the highlights. much of this is too my liking, but i'm fearing the whimsical spirit and brilliant pacing of intensity then safety, is missing. more than ever, i can't friggin' wait!!
...this person saw & enjoyed HP, but says FOTR is in another universe in terms of seriousness, message, and overall darkness. he/she has a 13 yr old, and specifically mentioned that NO WAY will they be seeing the film.
[source 2:]ok- i've spoken w/ another viewer who's somewhat less impressed. specifics i remember (don't read ahead if you don't want to know) are that the sheer number of fight scenes was unecessary- swordfight after swordfight to the point of boredom. the council of elrond was described as surprisingly argumentive. the gandalf-saruman confrontation degrades into an embarassing martial arts-type fight. he also mentioned pj being very heavy handed at times- gandalf bumping his head at bilbo's house, for instance. funny though, he said he definately wanted to see it again! oh, and the character of aragorn has been miscast, being more of a pretty boy than a gritty traveller. hey, don't kill the messenger...just my reporting thoughts.
...interestingly, the 2nd source is a huge LOTR fan. i think we'll eventually find some of the more critical notices will be from those who have the highest expectations. guess he gets a bad rap cause i'm relaying only the neg. comments. hmmm... he liked the acting in general (so did #1), but found the interpersonal relationships lacking. both thought the balrog was utterly awsome. pj apparently pulls out all manners of beasts. i'll think of more as we go along.
...my take on #2 (whom i don't know well either) is that because he had such high expectations, there was a nit picky aspect to this review and that he was exaggerating to some point. but again, he definately will see it again. what all seem to say is that the film is much more CONFRONTATIONAL than expected- one after another. i think there'll be lots of discussion on whether this was overdone or not- #2 certainly thought so.
I've recently seen a screening of Fellowship of the Ring. A small number of us within [ahem] distrubion company have seen it, albeit in a small projection room :-/ It clocks in just shy of 3 hours and is totally mindblowing. There's no other word: mindblowing. I'm a tolkien fan, but no means a geek Yeah, I was optimistic about the movie, but it has totally blown my expectations away. Very different to how I imagined it would play out on screen. You people are in for a big surprise. If there's one dominat theme, it has to been a sence of darkness and overwhelming fear. This is no movies for kids.... So, any questions about it? Please keep in mind I only saw it once ( and I was lucky to get that chance ),and I'm not a Tolkien-expert like some of you guys probably are, but I'll do my best...It's more violent then I thought it would be, you know, for a what, PG-cert? PJ's old love of gore really shines in the Moria scenes. The most frightening thing is really not the violence, but the sence of fear and evil when the Black Riders are around. It is genuinely terrifying : the mixture of amazing etheral imagery, amazing movement of the camera and the score...the score!...it's like The Omenx100! But yeah...hmmm..gorey, well yeah, it's quite graphic at times, some of the poor old orcs and goblins really do die some horrific deaths at the hands of the fellowship. [Action sequences rock,btw]
...They're are some amazing treetop scenes in Lothlorien...if that answers your question. Lothlorien is beautifully shot, hard to describe, you'd have to see it. Very, very beautiful... Andrew Lesnie deserves the Oscar, nodoubt.
...It's very, very, very good. And on every level, this transends the genre, it's magnificant! Movies I could compare it too...hmmm, at times I am reminded of PJ's older film Heavenly Creatures, but hmmm...no, it's unique,I've never seen a film so imaginativally shot. It's so lush and rich..ahh
What makes it so good? EVERYTHING! The vision, the sound the movements of the camera, THE BRIDGE! THE BRDIGE!
Honestly, it's just a collection of everything.....it's so emotional too. Sence of light and hope? In Lothlorien and Rivendell....they're magic moments that fill your heart with golden joy...
The final thing is Sam and Frodo heading off on their own with the boy solo singing In Dreams (i think)....very poignant...Enya's song comes in then as the titles come. The saddest part without a doubt, after Gandalf 'dies' and the fellowship emerge from the moutain.
It's one of the most emotional things I've ever seen on film.
Frightening : Weathertop.No have NO idea what weird that scene is...WHAT A SET! Wait till you see it!
The Breaking of the Fellowship plays out quite similar to the book, if I recall the book correctly. Still though, it's not quite how i imagined it to look like, but it was great nevertheless....
Frodo's character is protrayed exactly as how I remember it from the book, strong but at times dependant of the other Hobbits...there are poignant moments with him and Sam though, Sean Astin IS Sam!
The Caradras pass...hmmm....I can't recall who's idea was first ( hey i dont even know that scene too well in the book)
Anonymous 2 (via "Sarmis_Pug"):
The one I have spoken to, had been warned it was "likely to affect his job prospects" if he uttered a word ... no paranoia there thenAll he would say was that as a Star Wars fan, he felt it eclipsed anything he had seen before. As a film fanatic, he said it was the most spectacular movie he had ever experienced. he said time and again he felt his eyes well up with emotion ... and this guys a bit of a hard nut.
The first thin he did after seeing the film was to buy the three books ... great news for Tolkien Enterprises
Basically he couldn't fault the film ... I told him how much had been released or speculated about online, but he wouldn't go into specifics ... guess we'll just have to wait for a month
"Joseph Young" (an alias) (via Harray Knowles):
Hey folks, Harry here... I got a ton of LORD OF THE RINGS news in the last few hours, so I figured I would just place it all here for now.
First... I had an hour long conversation with... ahem, Joseph Young of Africa last night. Now, Joe has seen the movie, however Mr Young was a fairly radically paranoid type. You see at this point only a few people that work with PETER JACKSON, a few folks at NEW LINE and a couple of DISTRIBUTOR types have seen the film thus far and he didn't want anything to go wrong... So after proving beyond any doubt that he was who he was, he began to allow me to question him about having seen the film.
First, I wanted to determine what this person's taste was. What their expectations were going into the film. What other movies are in their 'taste' area... That sort of thing.
Joseph Young is a geek. No two ways about it. At one point when we were talking about Sean Astin, he said that he always thought of Sean as Rudy, I interupted with, "What about Mikey?" And he retorted instantly with, "Well of course he'll always be a GooooooooooooNnnnniiiiieeeee!!!!" Just an instant reaction... I bopped his knee and he instantly knew how to react. He loves STAR WARS to death. Flaws and all. He can't stand Ewoks, but can't help singing along at the end of the original RETURN OF THE JEDI. He has problems with PHANTOM MENACE, but loves it because it is STAR WARS and he can't not not love it. (How's that, a triple negative!!!) But let's get into the thoughts regarding LORD OF THE RINGS.
Now he has seen it more than once. (Go ahead, It is ok to hate Joseph Young) First, in regards to the film he said, "In 1977, STAR WARS changed film. I love Star Wars. Star Wars played my town for 7 straight months and I remember as a kid going back to the theater... Finding it no longer playing and crying. I'd seen the film in theaters over 50 times. Star Wars is what made me fall in love with film. I love it warts and all. FELLOWSHIP OF THE RINGS avoids every mistake that STAR WARS made. The acting, the story-telling, at every turn the film is simply effortlessly perfect."
I asked, "Well how does the film play for you?"
"It starts off with a prologue. Now I know the books, so I thought this was going to be repetative, but instead it was like presenting the scope of what is to come. It took me by the hand and said, 'And this is where all of this begins'. Watching Bilbo hug Gandalf, well you've seen that in the Cannes reel, but Harry. There was something so otherworldly magical about it that I just couldn't help, but be delighted. The party scene for Bilbo's birthday plays very fast, but it is during this sequence that you really notice how much you like Elijah Wood. It was strange, it was kind of painful watching him here because he's just so innocent. Those eyes of his, so happy and filled with the simple joys of Hobbit life. I know where this is going so I just empathize with him very profoundly."
"First, I have to say that Ian McKellen is not in this film, Peter Jackson actually cast Gandalf in the film. I think that might stand in the way of Ian getting any sort of nomination out of this film, because you can't conceive of him as being anything other than Gandalf. It doesn't feel like acting. It feels like he's Gandalf. But the man who steals the movie in my opinion is CHRISTOPHER LEE. OHMYGOD. OHMYGOD, when you see him. WOW. Christopher Lee was just the shit in the film. If he doesn't get some sort of nomination at the end of the year. He's just so incredibly awesome. In his scenes with Gandalf... WOW."
At this point, award concepts came to mind, so I asked, "What sort of award potential do you see in FELLOWSHIP?"
"Score. It definitely has score wrapped up. There is so much more music than is just on the soundtrack. It is just amazing, and the way it performs with the movie. Wow. Costumes, Production Design, Effects, Cinematography. It will win Cinematography hands down. The film is just astoundingly photographed. This could have all the technical awards wrapped up. As for the others, I don't even want to pretend to guess about those. I mean writing, direction, acting and the overall film. They are all amazing, but I just fear that the Academy will see this as being so natural, so easy. I mean it feels like this is exactly the way it ought to be. I mean the characters. They are all just exactly who they are in the books. It doesn't feel like acting because THAT'S HOW THOSE CHARACTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. But will they know that? I don't know. If I were voting, this would win everything."
At this point I was curious about a point and asked, "Well how does it compare to BRAVEHEART or GLADIATOR?"
"Ok, well BRAVEHEART was basically the title. The film had so much heart and so much soul that what you were left with a very emotional film, but flawed on several different levels. I like that film quite a bit though. In GLADIATOR though. God I love that movie. GLADIATOR was just firing on all cylinders. Pardon my french, but it was just the fucking best. It was just great cinema. FELLOWSHIP OF THE RINGS combines the two and has that same sort of fucking best firing on all cylinders great cinema feeling, but it is also has all the heart and soul that I got out of BRAVEHEART. People so do not know what they are heading into. I walked into this thinking there was no possible way it could live up to my expectations. When I walked out that first time, all I could think was that there was no way that TWO TOWERS and RETURN OF THE KING could possibly live up to expectations. OHMYGOD. This is that new benchmark by which all others will be judged. It is perfect!!!"
At this point I was getting very excited. As I imagine you are, but the thought crossed my mind and mouth, "Well, does it have any flaws?"
"No, not really. The weakest link for me was Liv Tyler, and it wasn't that she is bad. I really think she's quite good, but I could not help but see her as Liv Tyler first, not as Arwen first. I can't say that with all the others. Every other character is the character first for me and the actor underneath second. Like Viggo Mortensen, he is Strider first. He is that character. I don't see Sallah, I see Gimli. That guy playing Legolas, where did they find him. He IS LEGOLAS. There's this one point in the woods where he's shooting orcs, and his arms are just a blur of motion and the look on his face was just so damn cool. He just moves like an Elf and I can't really describe that, but when you see him fighting, you'll know what I mean. He's an Elf."
"Coming into this that first time I was really concerned with Sean Astin. I just couldn't help but think RUDY, but he IS Samwise Gamgee! Other than Christopher Lee, Sean Astin steals the movie. I just love him in this film. And Elijah Wood, I don't think he has a clue how big and popular he's going to be out of this. He's the heart of this film."
At this point there were a couple of specific questions I had. "I heard that the last thing Peter Jackson did on this film was take every frame into a computer and bring out colors and desaturate colors at different points. What's that like?"
"Oh well it looks great. At the Mines Of Moria, it is just creepy as can be. But like at Lothlorien he's brought out the blues and yellows and it is just otherworldly. You've never seen a film that looked like this. It has a totally different feel to it."
MMMMMmmm, can't wait. Next I was curious if at this point, does NEW LINE and Peter have a trailer or a preview of TWO TOWERS and/or RETURN OF THE KING before going into credits or after them.
"No, not yet. Though personally that would be cool."
Kewl, I shall be enthralled...
"I couldn't help but hear many women of the audience talking afterwards about how much they were unimpressed by the whole film."
Just a bunch of brain-dead Lib'ral nimwits...America needs a few more Galadriels, Arwens, and Eowyns...to say nothing of Luthiens and Vardas!! Maybe this movie will move a few of the less-bold females a bit further up their journey in life!!
SHEEEEESH...MUD
Liv Tyler mmmmm..
Thank God for That!
I'm sure others feel the same way I do about this upcoming film. I've waited for this since 1974 when I first read the Trilogy. Then I proceeded to read the Hobbit and then the Silmarillian and then other materials by Tolkien or others. I'm patiently awaiting the Dec 19th debut. I think Peter Jackson did it as good as it can get. Bravo - premature - but BRAVO anyway!