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Tortured, Bloody, Sickening . . . But Effective -- Pro-Life Group Pricks Communters' Consciences
Los Angeles Lay Catholic Mission ^ | 10/01 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 11/28/2001 2:48:37 PM PST by Caleb1411

At 6:15 a.m. in an industrial park in central Los Angeles, a plain-looking warehouse is unlocked. Beyond the iron gates and surveillance camera, another iron gate leads to a truck yard, which leads to the giant doors. Inside, the trucks are warmed up. A few more people show up. Some are staff, some are volunteers and two of them are off-duty police officers who will escort the trucks.

The reason for all the security is apparent when you look at the trucks. Photographs of aborted fetuses, blown up to billboard size, decorate each side of the bed of every truck. The word "Choice" in quotation marks and a web address loom over the photos. Some of the babies are juxtaposed against a dime as big as their entire body. Every working day, five days a week, since June, these trucks have been on the freeways of Los Angeles turning heads for three hours as they drive through morning traffic.

The trucks are the latest weapon of the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, a non-profit pro-life group dedicated to getting the public to face the issue they love to avoid. Its founder and director, Greg Cunningham, briefs the crew before leaving on today's run. Using a large map, he reveals his plan. Today they will follow a loop that begins on the 605 North to 60 East to 57 North, to 210 West to 134 West, to 405 South to the 10 East to 5 South and back to 605 South. "We will drive this loop ad nauseam -- that is, until every driver that has seen us is nauseated!" Cunningham jokes. The session ends with a brief prayer. At 6:40 a.m., everyone boards the trucks.

Riders wears body armor -- a 50 pound, bullet-proof SWAT vest with steel panels on all four sides of the torso. Each vest has pepper spray in its pocket. Helmets are located under the seats, just in case. "The California Highway Patrol turned down our application to armor-plate the cabs," explained Cunningham. "The windows are not bulletproof, but they are coated with mylar film, which can stop a brick. We don't put our people in harm's way for the purpose of getting beaten up."

A security car, outfitted like a police car, follows the convoy of trucks, keeping lanes clear behind them and making sure no one can stalk the convoy upon return to the warehouse. The security car and the trucks are equipped with video cameras that document all surrounding activity on each trip. Each member of the convoy communicates by radio. "Violence against pro-lifers is under-reported because a lot of pro-life activists just don't think the police will do anything about it," explained Cunningham, "and frequently they won't do anything about it. It's harder to get district attorneys to prosecute it and it's harder to get judges to find people guilty for it or penalize them significantly. [Yet] a bogus allegation of an assault against a pro-abort is likely to land a pro-lifer in jail."

During the early part of the trip, the trucks are going against the commute. Stalled traffic on the other side of Highway 60 cannot miss the message on each truck. The trucks move at 45 mph, the minimum legal speed on California's highways. As he drives, Cunningham explains their mission. "The truck campaign is an outgrowth of the [pro-life] Genocide Awareness Project, which involves the outdoor display of large photo murals on university campuses. We've now been on 33 public campuses all over the country. Probably three quarters of a million students have seen these pictures now.

"The campus project resulted from a fairly sophisticated analysis we had done on the unchanging principles of social reform, going back 150 years or more. We've examined every movement from the abolition of child labor, the abolition of slavery, to the civil rights movement and the anti-Vietnam war movement. Successful social reformers invariably used horrifying pictures to dramatize injustice and to confront the culture and prick the collective conscience. But since the reformers were social liberals, they found sympathetic allies in the press, who would broadcast these photos. Clearly, the press, if not hostile, is certainly not sympathetic to our [pro-life] point of view. So we had to come up with a new mass medium, a way of putting these pictures into the heads of people who are never going to see them in the media. The freeway system is built for transportation, but it could be appropriated for educational purposes. Commutes are getting longer and freeways are getting more crowded each year and you basically have a captive audience of people who can't change the channel and can't turn the page when they see us."

Cunningham's voice is earnest, steady and gentle. "When I am asked a question on talk-radio, two or three words into my answers, everyone starts shouting me down. When I was on the Leslie Marshall show, she got so angry with me that she hung up on me. I was supposed to come on at six in the evening on the Brian Whittaker show; but he kept me on hold until six-thirty, just beating the heck out of us, criticizing, misstating facts, and taking hostile calls, not letting me off hold into the conversation; so I finally hung up. Without realizing it, these talk show hosts who are so vehemently opposed to the truck project are making our point, which is, you can't hang up on the trucks. You can't put them on hold and you can't shout them down.

"The trucks are in your face," said Cunningham. "That's critical, because another aspect of social reform that we identified was massive societal denial among people complicit in injustice or complacent in response to the injustice. They felt guilty about it, and, as a consequence, didn't want to know more about the injustice than they already knew. So if you want to teach people who don't want to learn, you've got to develop methodologies that don't rely on the consent of the person you are trying to educate. Once you look at the pictures, they are in your head and you're never going to get them out. Every time you hear the word 'abortion' thereafter, instead of an abstraction, you are going to see a dead baby, tortured to death, bloody, sickening. Over time, if you have a functioning conscience, these images will begin to change the way you feel, think and ultimately, behave."

"Those who shout me down are foils for me," mused Cunningham, "because they are demonstrating their fear of my answer. These trucks have created pandemonium on the other side, because there is nothing they can do to stop this. If they respond violently, they draw more attention to us and discredit themselves. If they take us to court, they create a forum for the project. It's like the dilemma of an animal caught in a leg-hold trap; the harder it pulls, the deeper the teeth sink into its leg. The pro-aborts don't know whether to ignore this or resist it, so the only semi-coherent criticism we hear, besides 'You're upsetting children,' is that the pictures aren't real. The liberals know that if the pictures are real, they're dead. There's no moral defense for their position that's in any way convincing, so they resort to the same tactics that neo-Nazi skinheads employ when confronted with evidence of the Holocaust. They just say the pictures are fake and it never happened."

Cunningham recognizes that some people will never be convinced. "This project only works with those who have a functioning conscience. This is an educational, not a spiritual, project. A person who understands the magnitude of the evil that abortion represents and endorses it nonetheless is not ignorant but is morally bankrupt. I'm not aiming this at the 20 percent of the population that is irremediably evil, but at the, maybe, 60 percent that's just confused about all of this or believes abortion is the lesser of two evils because they don't know how evil it actually is. Evil that remains invisible quickly becomes tolerable. It's imperative that you make it real to people."

The unwanted nature of the message is what Cunningham believes gives it power. "That creates a great deal of anger, but Martin Luther King created a great deal of anger, the anti-Vietnam war movement created a great deal of anger. Earth First creates a great deal of anger. Social reformers don't care what people think of them, but what people think of injustice. I'm willing to get people angry at me to get them angry at abortion."

Though a conservative, Cunningham does not spare conservatives in his prescription to end abortion. The principal reason the pro-life movement has made so little progress over the last 30 years is because social reform is new to conservatives," he said. "Conservatives, to their discredit, are frequently defenders of an unjust status quo and it's political liberals who usually try to effect reform. Conservatives mistakenly imagine that in order to be effective, you have to be liked. At some level, they just can't deal with disapproval the way liberals can." Conservatives are "beaten down by liberals who are very clever at identity politics. 'If you're against abortion, you're against women.' That's an intellectually dishonest way of changing the subject; to discredit your opponent because you don't want to deal with his argument. None of those tactics work in the face of a dead baby picture in your windshield on the way to work. Is this a baby or isn't it? Is this an act of violence or isn't it? Should this be lawful or not?

"The pro-life movement doesn't have a clue as to how to change peoples' understandings of the facts of abortion. They just want to shout conclusions and opinions at people. What's really bizarre is that mainstream pro-life organizations and the Church are working harder than Planned Parenthood to suppress the best evidence we have -- photo evidence -- that abortion is an act of violence and it does kill a baby."

Cunningham is very disappointed with the efforts -- or lack thereof -- of Catholic bishops to fight abortion. "The U.S. bishops just bought an ad campaign whose operating principle is subtlety. During the Vietnam War, the working press had historically low approval ratings because people were angry that night after night the television showed the police chief of Saigon blowing out the brains of a Vietcong suspect, or naked children whose clothing was burned off by napalm running toward the camera. Those photos lodged in the public mind and gradually eroded public support for U.S. involvement in the war. The press was willing to take the hit. The protesters were willing to accept persecution. They had their eyes focused on a public policy objective and you can't win that on the cheap.

"But the bishops want to win this on the cheap," continued Cunningham. "They are laboring under the misconception that to be effective you have to be liked. They need to go back and read the prophets of the Old Testament and note the consistency with which they were persecuted and even martyred. Jesus said, 'If they persecute me, they will persecute you.' Well, they're not persecuting the bishops because the bishops have been very careful to avoid any behavior that invites persecution.

"The National Council of Catholic Bishops is releasing these insipid, 'subtle' ad campaigns that are designed to be just pro-life enough to mollify the 20 percent of the Church that is comprised of traditional orthodox Catholics, but not pro-life enough to antagonize the 20 percent of parishioners who are hard-core pro-aborts and are constantly trying to throttle and thwart pro-life activism in the Church. So the 60 percent who are in the middle on all of this are just abandoned to twist in the wind. It's the attempt to create the impression that NCCB is serious about abortion, when they're really only doing half-measured, conscience-salving stuff that is so dishonest.

Cunningham is equally disappointed with Evangelicals in the fight for life. He believes both Catholics and Protestants are losing an opportunity and uses the term "the Church" as a reference to all denominations. "The bishops are wrong about this," he said. "It may be that when you offend people they will close their ears, but I'm not speaking to them. I care what they do with their eyes and they can't close their eyes on the freeway without having a wreck. We are a visual culture. So many people in the pro-life movement learned in an age when people read and listened. That's over. Kids learn today by looking, and people my age, middle-aged people, don't get that. The bishops and Respect Life coordinators don't get that, and that's one of the reasons we're losing this thing. Gut decision makers tend to be voyeuristic; so if that's where the culture is, that's where we've got to engage them. The bishops are just bureaucrats. If the bishops were where the pope is in the fight against abortion, this fight would be over.

"This slaughter is occurring with our permission. The Church is permitting an atrocity to happen that God has given us the resources to stop. That's why the Church has blood on its hands in a very real sense. When Jesus commanded us show our love for God by obeying His commandments, he wasn't just talking about prohibitions against doing evil, He was talking as well about our affirmative duty to intervene on behalf of those who are being victimized by injustice. That's what the parable of the Good Samaritan is about and it's that affirmative duty that the Church is failing to discharge. Even while the Church mumbles platitudes about abortion being law, you show me your checkbook and I'll show you what you're serious about. From that perspective, the Church is hardly serious about abortion. All 'peace and justice' issues are irrelevant to dead babies. Illiteracy, homelessness, poverty, disease, hunger are absolutely irrelevant to a dead baby. Abortion is a threshold sin. It's a foundational evil."

As we turn on the 210 and enter the San Gabriel Valley, traffic gets heavier. As we get closer to Pasadena, the cars start getting more expensive. Although no one is making obscene gestures at us today - otherwise a frequent occurrence -- many people are glaring or staring at the trucks. Passengers in cars point and seem to be having animated discussions. "When we are in Orange County and the Inland Empire, we get looks of stunned disbelief," said Cunningham. "Some people will attempt to cut us off or break into the convoy. They'll do that when they haven't seen the police car behind us. We'll see more aggressive driving the closer we get to West L.A. That's where the cultural elites are.

"Sometimes we'll go into Malibu and Topanga Canyon and that's where the studio bigwigs are. You'll start really seeing the obscene gestures and scowls and frowns. They're scandalized because they regard these areas as their domain and we're violating the sanctity of their liberal environs by bringing the truth of abortion to Malibu."

To prevent legal harassment, the project keeps two public interest law firms on retainer: the Life Legal Defense Foundation and the Thomas More Center. "We involve counsel in the planning of everything we do, from the conceptual level all the way through implementation," said Cunningham. "We structure our activities to give us maximum litigation advantage and our adversaries the minimum of openings to harass us in court. In the eleven years the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform has been doing its work, we have not been sued once. We are easily the most aggressive pro-life organization in the country. We've only sued someone else once; we brought a federal lawsuit against Indiana University last year and forced a settlement on them that allows us to display our Genocide Awareness Project at a very prominent location on their campus."

In spite of the "in your face" approach of this project, Cunningham denounces all pro-life violence. Still, Cunningham thinks the pro-life movement has not been all that violent. "Look at the history of social reform," said Cunningham, "and note the thousands of bombings and riots and injuries and arrests and murders (especially during the civil rights movement and anti-Vietnam war movement). Compare that to the pro-life movement, where only seven lives have been lost in 30 years, with only a tiny fraction of bombings and arsons and virtually no riots. To suggest that the pro-life movement has been violent is preposterous. There were more people killed during a few days of rioting in the Rodney King matter in Los Angeles than have been killed in the entire history of the pro-life movement -- not only in this country, but worldwide.

The Genocide Awareness Project is funded by donations. "Ironically, much of our work is being funded by people in the southeastern United States. There are some enlightened donors there who believe the best way to fight abortion in Kentucky is by funding pro-life activism in Southern California because California is such a trend-setting state. If you're able to make a dent in public opinion here, the theory is that the influence that the activism creates will spread to other parts of the country. Almost all of the funding has come from private individuals and almost none of it is institutional money." What is Cunningham's goal should the funding continue to increase? "Expansion to more cities," he said.

A former state legislator, justice department official, and assistant U.S. attorney, Cunningham, 54, says something deeper keeps him doing pro-life work. "I sat in the U.S. Attorney's office in Los Angeles," said Cunningham, "and every week watched 25 or 30 resumés come across my desk from people at very good law firms and from very good law schools; day by day it became clearer to me that any one of these people could do my job at least as well as I, and some of them better. But none of them would be willing to fight the greatest moral evil the world has ever seen. I thought to myself, 'I'm going to have to stand before the judgment seat of Christ and explain what I was doing while the sewers of our cities were running red with the blood of our children.'"

"I don't understand Christians who agonize about being in the will of God and then dedicate their lives to doing the work that the pagans are perfectly willing to do! Christians want to live a 'normal life' and the 'American Dream,' but that notion would have been absolutely anathema to firstcentury Christians. I admit, I'm a materialistic person. I used to have a private plane. I had a Rolex and drove a Porsche, and I miss them. But I can't have those things and sit here on the freeway, scandalizing Southern California with the horror of abortion. We've got to make a choice. If I'm going to be serious about giving more of my time to this work, then I've got to be willing to live more modestly than I was willing to live. I'm not some super-spiritual person; this was not easy. My contemporaries with whom I went to law school are at the apex of their careers, doing things I would rather be doing and living in places where I would rather live.

"A guy named Leith Anderson wrote a book called Dying For Change about the Church," continued Cunningham. "He noticed that the Church and para-church organizations tend to move away from geographical centers of cultural influence while liberal organizations tend to move into centers of cultural influence. We see this again and again, that conservatives would rather live where they want to live and be left alone, where liberals want to change the world. So liberals go where they can have the greatest possible impact -- the news centers, media, entertainment and education - to the points of influence that have the greatest impact on the culture. Conservatives, again, are dumb as a post about all this. The irony of it is most traditional Christians, Catholic, Evangelical, what have you, are conservatives, and they're under a biblical mandate from our Lord to change the world. It is we who are supposed to be changing that world and we have abdicated that responsibility to pagan liberals -- some of them masquerading as Catholic clerics."

As we enter a bumper-to-bumper 405 South at the Sepulveda Pass, we are in what Cunningham describes as one of the areas where the offense taken at the photos is greatest. He is able to generalize reactions according to car models. "Porsches aren't that bad and Mercedeses aren't that bad, but there's something about a BMW that attracts serious pro-aborts. I saw a lady who almost had a wreck on the 405 North; she got off at one of the Hollywood exits and she was leaning out of her window, wobbling and swerving, trying to shout backward at us, while she tried to exit. I was afraid she would get cut in half. If abortion is O.K., then why do these pictures upset them so?"

As we move south of Westwood, we turn east on 10 and traffic thins out. Gawkers continue to slow down and stare as they pass us, but the ride back to the warehouse is uneventful. As we pull into the lot, a pickup following us takes down the building's address, then flees before the police stop him. They don't bother chasing him. Another successful mission is accomplished. An estimated 400 thousand drivers have seen the message.

Cunningham's strategy is best summarized by analogy to a chess game. "This is like a chess game where we don't even let our opponent sit down at the table until we've pre-positioned the pieces to place him at checkmate," said Cunningham. "Then we invite him to sit down and tell him, 'It's your move.' Although we're not going to do anything unlawful or immoral, we're not going to play this game pursuant to rules written by pro-aborts and weak bishops."


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1 posted on 11/28/2001 2:48:37 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: MHGinTN; *Abortion_list; *Christian_list
BUMP
2 posted on 11/28/2001 2:50:15 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411
"The California Highway Patrol turned down our application to armor-plate the cabs,"

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I guess from now on you just need to armor-plate and quit asking permission. If a state representative gets armor, everybody does.

3 posted on 11/28/2001 2:52:50 PM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: Caleb1411
Long past time to call things by their proper names...
4 posted on 11/28/2001 2:54:57 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: thatsnotnice
"The California Highway Patrol turned down our application to armor-plate the cabs,"

I find this very odd as well. Am I to understand that in CA you have to "apply" to have your vehicle armor-plated? WTF is the logic behind that bit of absurdity?

5 posted on 11/28/2001 2:58:25 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Caleb1411
OK. Out of curiosity, how do you donate?
6 posted on 11/28/2001 3:00:55 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Caleb1411
Excellent post. BUMP!
7 posted on 11/28/2001 3:05:48 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: Question_Assumptions
[INFO AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE} Those who would like to contribute to the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform can visit their website at www.abortionNO.org, or call (562) 777-9117; cell-phone, (714) 240-6976.
8 posted on 11/28/2001 3:07:09 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: BibChr; logos
BUMP
9 posted on 11/28/2001 3:08:22 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: AAABEST
The same kind of "logic" that prevents you from carrying a weapon for self-protection.
10 posted on 11/28/2001 3:10:17 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Caleb1411
Greg Cunningham is a ballsy guy!
11 posted on 11/28/2001 3:12:59 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Caleb1411
If abortion is O.K., then why do these pictures upset them so?

Because it's the mirror of their souls...

12 posted on 11/28/2001 3:13:24 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: Caleb1411
Thanks for posting this.

Pro-Life BTTT!

13 posted on 11/28/2001 3:15:18 PM PST by Hail Caesar
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To: Question_Assumptions
OK. Out of curiosity, how do you donate?

Click on this link: The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform

14 posted on 11/28/2001 3:18:04 PM PST by FairWitness
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To: Noumenon
"Because it's the mirror of their souls..."

Precisely.

Hiya, Noumy!

15 posted on 11/28/2001 3:18:30 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: Question_Assumptions
Those who would like to contribute to the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform can visit their website at www.abortionNO.org.
16 posted on 11/28/2001 3:18:47 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: headsonpikes
Right. Cunningham is anything but an obseqious Caspar Milquetoast:

"This slaughter is occurring with our permission. The Church is permitting an atrocity to happen that God has given us the resources to stop. That's why the Church has blood on its hands in a very real sense. When Jesus commanded us show our love for God by obeying His commandments, he wasn't just talking about prohibitions against doing evil, He was talking as well about our affirmative duty to intervene on behalf of those who are being victimized by injustice. That's what the parable of the Good Samaritan is about and it's that affirmative duty that the Church is failing to discharge. Even while the Church mumbles platitudes about abortion being law, you show me your checkbook and I'll show you what you're serious about. From that perspective, the Church is hardly serious about abortion. All 'peace and justice' issues are irrelevant to dead babies. Illiteracy, homelessness, poverty, disease, hunger are absolutely irrelevant to a dead baby. Abortion is a threshold sin. It's a foundational evil."

17 posted on 11/28/2001 3:24:56 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411
obseqious = obsequious
18 posted on 11/28/2001 3:26:55 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: Noumenon
"If abortion is ok, then why do these pictures upset them so?"

"Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.." Isaiah 44:24. WOULD YOU WANT TO ANSWER TO THE GOD WHO DECLARES EXACTLY WHO CREATED ALL LIFE IN THE WOMB????

19 posted on 11/28/2001 3:28:36 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: Caleb1411
Wow, am I behind! I had heard this was in the planning stages ... I had no idea it was already in progress. A guy who knows he's doing the Lord's work just can't be stopped. Prayers up for Mr. Cunningham.
20 posted on 11/28/2001 3:28:39 PM PST by logos
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To: Noumenon
Because it's the mirror of their souls...

Still callin' 'em like you see 'em, Noumenon ... and you see 'em like they are.

Nice to "see" you again.

21 posted on 11/28/2001 3:30:22 PM PST by logos
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To: Caleb1411
I wish my Mom were alive to see this; she'd have loved it. She was an avid pro-lifer. May she rest in peace. For victory & freedom!!!
22 posted on 11/28/2001 3:31:01 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Caleb1411
GREAT! Thanks! How about a convoy across the US!

Only 7 deaths. You would think there were more based on the NEUREMBURG web site censoring.

23 posted on 11/28/2001 3:32:02 PM PST by Henchman
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To: Caleb1411
Not pretty but effective I'm sure.

Kinda like Jesus in the money changers temple.

Of course, being California you cant have semi-auto rifles for self-defense. A Lever 30-30 might be a good deterrent.

24 posted on 11/28/2001 3:32:40 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Caleb1411
You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free bump
25 posted on 11/28/2001 3:34:13 PM PST by apackof2
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... He was talking as well about our affirmative duty to intervene on behalf of those who are being victimized by injustice. ... All 'peace and justice' issues are irrelevant to dead babies. Illiteracy, homelessness, poverty, disease, hunger are absolutely irrelevant to a dead baby. ... [Abortion]It's a foundational evil."
There will come to this thread those that want you to believe some degree of aborting lives is enlightened social policy. They will argue that there is some point prior to birth (some may even try to assert it is birth) that is the beginning of a human lifetime. Their arguments may sound quite convincing, with clever obfuscation and misapplication of the science now proving that conception is the start of every human lifetime in the body. Do not be taken in by these inspired ghouls ... they want to promote the exploitation of weaker individual human lives for the benefit of the more developed, more powerful human masters.

Ask yourself this combination of questions: When did your individual body have its beginning, when did the body of you begin in spacetime; is it right to kill another, to harvest the organs and tissues of that other for medical cures without the consent of that other, or is it right to conceive a new individual human (read begin a new individual lifetime), then kill and harvest the body parts of that new lifetime begun? Remember, it is not the intent of the exploiter that determines whether a new individual lifetime has been conceived, though that will be one of the specious arguments foisted in debates such as this.

You will read, perhaps, misdirectional questions like "Can an embryo think; can an embryo feel?" Counter such bilge by asking yourself, since a new zygote/blastocyst can and does sense its environment in the womb and actively seeks life support from its environment, even the woman's uterine lining, isn't it displaying fundamental characteristics of an independent, individual organism; isn't the earliest embryonic manifestation displaying a will to live, to survive?

We are an individual human being in the body first at conception and remain an individual human being in the body until death, artificially or naturally arrived at, along the continuum that is an individual human lifetime in the body begun at conception.

26 posted on 11/28/2001 3:58:50 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Caleb1411
BTTT, I work at a campus here in the NW and they had those pictures here, WOW, do they say a lot, it is a must see, it will for sure change minds in time.
27 posted on 11/28/2001 4:11:00 PM PST by Phyto Chems
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To: Centurion2000
Yahweh bless Greg Cunningham!
28 posted on 11/28/2001 4:27:15 PM PST by Hila
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To: Caleb1411
I visited the website a while ago and thought This will be how the world changes. I still think it is true.
29 posted on 11/28/2001 4:58:55 PM PST by mlmr
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To: Caleb1411
This article rocks!

day by day it became clearer to me that any one of these people could do my job at least as well as I, and some of them better. But none of them would be willing to fight the greatest moral evil the world has ever seen. I thought to myself, 'I'm going to have to stand before the judgment seat of Christ and explain what I was doing while the sewers of our cities were running red with the blood of our children.'"

My hat is off in total admiration for this gentleman. If I could be one fourth as lucid and articulate as he is when I argue with pro choice people I would change a lot of minds. If he can defend his position this well on live broadcasts we need to get him on the air on some sort of fair forum and let him talk.

Thanks for posting this and BTTT.

30 posted on 11/28/2001 5:30:11 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: steenkeenbadges
I'd like to mention that one doesn't have to be Christian (I'm not)to understand the nature of 'choice' and to name it for what it is.
31 posted on 11/28/2001 5:51:03 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: logos
Thanks, friend. Nice to be back. Feeling a lot better these days...
32 posted on 11/28/2001 5:51:55 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon
Sorry, I didn't know you were feeling poorly. I woulda prayed for ya anyway, ya know, even if you are a heathen. :^)
33 posted on 11/28/2001 5:55:33 PM PST by logos
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To: ArGee; SlickWillard
bttt
34 posted on 11/28/2001 5:55:54 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Caleb1411
Thanks for this article, got it bookmarked and will send it to some fellow pro-lifers. Bump!
35 posted on 11/28/2001 6:05:37 PM PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit
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To: Caleb1411
Great article -- thanks.
36 posted on 11/28/2001 6:11:38 PM PST by Silly
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To: Caleb1411
Gary Cunningham is my kind of guy. He's dead right about the Catholic Bishops [and all of christianity] allowing this atrocity to happen. Not only do we need reform in the Catholic Church but we need it ASAP. If more people had the attitude, knowledge, fortitude, strength of character, and faith in God that this man has, we'd be a better country. I'd donate if I knew where to send the money.

He's also right about conservatives not knowing how to be social reformers. I think he'd fit in well here at FR, though! God bless him.

37 posted on 11/28/2001 6:13:16 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: patent; angelo; AmericaUnited; Fury; Fantasywriter; Joshua
Great article. BTTT
38 posted on 11/28/2001 6:18:00 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Caleb1411
Pro-Life bump.
39 posted on 11/28/2001 6:43:29 PM PST by Angelwood
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To: JMJ333
Thanks.

I do love those truckers.

40 posted on 11/28/2001 7:14:45 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
^5
41 posted on 11/28/2001 7:53:17 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: Clinton's a liar
bump
42 posted on 11/28/2001 7:56:00 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: rdf; EternalVigilance; outlawcam; Gelato; Republic; d14truth
Ping!
43 posted on 11/28/2001 7:57:00 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: Tribune7
Trucker bump!
44 posted on 11/28/2001 7:57:29 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: JMJ333
Thanks for the bump. They do very good work. We hear stories here on FR from time to time about some of the reactions. I can't remember which school it was, but one of them had some students with priceless reactions. For everything else, you can donate by mastercard.

patent

45 posted on 11/28/2001 7:59:03 PM PST by patent
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To: Caleb1411
A newspaper is running a public opinon poll on these trucks. So far it looks like the trucks are doing more damage to the prolife cause than good. Are you sure this Cunnigham is not fifth columnist?

The Poll results thus far:

Disgusting and inappropriate 73% (3058 votes)

I may not agree, but they have the right to free speech 2% (84 votes)

I may be against abortion, but this is too much 7% (295 votes)

Effective and needed 16% (696 votes)

46 posted on 11/28/2001 8:11:29 PM PST by pcl
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To: Caleb1411
This project only works with those who have a functioning conscience.

Profound statement.

47 posted on 11/28/2001 8:28:53 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: marylina; homeschool mama
.......here!
48 posted on 11/28/2001 8:29:22 PM PST by Bradís Gramma
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To: pcl
So far it looks like the trucks are doing more damage to the prolife cause than good.

I disagree. I think the research behind this project is sound ... it IS next to impossible to get a fair shake from the mainstream media. All this group has done is create a new media -- a direct one. So what if it make people uncomfortable? They NEED to be uncomfortable.

As to the question of when life begins, consider this. At what point does DNA different from that of the contributors of the sperm and egg come into existence? There's your answer.

49 posted on 11/28/2001 8:36:11 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
This project only works with those who have a functioning conscience.

Based on the poll results cited above, shall we draw the conclusion that only one in four Californians have a 'functioning conscience'? Sounds about right...(the rest, I assume, are Freepers?) :-)



50 posted on 11/28/2001 8:51:23 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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