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To: Mercuria
I am troubled that they are troubled. I find it troubling. The trouble is that they are troubled whenever someone goes to the trouble of investigating some trouble and then blaming them for that trouble.

The trouble is that whenever someone goes to all that trouble then they go to the trouble of labeling the TROUBLEMAKERS as anti-semites, or skinheads or nazis. The trouble with this world is that no one takes responsibility for their own troubles.

As far as I'm concerned, 99% of all trouble is self inflicted. Now, I haven't gone to the trouble of doing a scientific study on this, that's just my opinion. My opinion has gotten me in trouble before, so maybe I'd be better off keeping my opinions to myself and not go to the trouble of writing them down here.

I'm not looking for trouble, but I don't shy away from trouble either. Someone has got to face this trouble head on and squelch it. You know what I mean? You've got to go right to the trouble-spots and stamp it out right there.

I won't trouble you any more tonight with this, I just felt that if the ADL was troubled by this then I had better be troubled by it too. I don't want to get into trouble with the ADL, becuase that could lead to REAL TROUBLE...

Can I take my tongue out of my cheek now???

124 posted on 12/14/2001 6:40:57 PM PST by Davidb72
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To: Davidb72
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A NEWS REPORT WITH FACTS IN IT-NOT THE BS,RUMOR AND INUENDO REPORT OF CAMERON ON FOX NEWS.

IT IS AS DIFFERENT AS GOEBBLE NAZI REPORT, AND THE WASHINGTON POST. No anonymous investigators of numerous agencies. But real, named federal agencies.

Source: CNN
Published: December 14, 2001 Author: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Federal agents swept through the offices of two Islamic charity groups Friday, seizing all financial assets and records, federal law enforcement sources told CNN.

The raids, the first under the anti-terrorist Patriot Act, were conducted in Illinois and New Jersey as part of the government's effort to freeze assets of groups suspected of aiding terrorism.

The coordinated actions stem from orders issued by the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control to freeze the organizations' assets.

Officials said Customs and IRS agents seized financial records from the Benevolence International Foundation in Newark, New Jersey. Earlier, FBI agents executed search warrants to seize records from the Global Relief Foundation near Chicago, Illinois.

A statement on the Treasury Department's Web site said all financial assets and all records of both groups were ordered blocked.

The Global Relief Foundation issued a statement Friday strongly denying any link to terrorism and saying it would fully cooperate with the investigation.

"We are in the business of helping innocent civilians and take every precaution to ensure our aid does not go to support or subsidize any nefarious activity," the statement said.

"Just as we would call the police if our collection box or computer equipment were being stolen, we would certainly alert the authorities if we had reason to believe the intended humanitarian purpose of our aid were being subverted to harm innocent lives."

The statement said it has already had to shut down its worldwide humanitarian operations.

The Patriot Act, which President Bush signed into law in October, grants sweeping new powers for intelligence-gathering and surveillance.

The additional powers include the use of much more international intelligence information and expanded wiretapping authority, and strengthens penalties for those who help terrorists and lengthens the statute of limitations for terrorist acts.

The Global Relief Organization raised more than $5 million last year for charities in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Muslim world.

The charity complained that the raid, coming at the end of Ramadan -- the biggest period of charitable giving for Muslims -- would hurt its relief efforts.

The Global Relief Organization filed lawsuits last month against large media outlets, including ABC and the New York Times, claiming that it has been unfairly portrayed as a terror organization.

Earlier this month, President Bush said the Treasury Department moved to freeze the assets and accounts of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. The government said the organization, based in Richardson, Texas, acts as a front to finance the militant wing of the Palestinian group Hamas.

Federal agents and local officers raided the foundation's Texas headquarters, seizing assets and records and executing what an FBI agent described as a "blocking order."

125 posted on 12/14/2001 7:09:10 PM PST by imperator2
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To: Davidb72
Can I take my tongue out of my cheek now???

If you don't, you're going to have a lot of trouble eating and speaking.

With a capital "T"...

136 posted on 12/16/2001 4:00:22 PM PST by Mercuria
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