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To: imperator2
Carl Cameron has a background delving into intelligence and security issues that affect the U.S.

Israel, not unlike many other nations, does have a history of spying and possessing high-level intelligence operations. Mr. Cameron presented what he had in a generalized information format, which is hardly a cause for Thought Police / Judge / Jury tactics, as most writers don't have the freedom to take up unlimited space with a full-scale report to present all the minutiae you are demanding, nor do they have the time.

The absence of all the detail you insist upon in this case does not make Mr. Cameron "malignant". I'm rather inclined to believe that Mr. Cameron has probably seen more documentation of this issue than you yourself have, and it would truly be irresponsible journalism to drop-kick information into the circular file for fear that amateur "analysts" such as yourself will raise the type of ruckus that makes many of us so scornful of tactics used by shifty leftists.

(And as for your "analysis"...excuse me, but that was one sloppy piece of work. Contradictions without evidence and the use of smearing innuendo against the writer do not an analysis make...although you gave a pretty fair imitation of the type of tactics real hardcore race-baiters use when they attempt to blow smoke.)

I have never seen anything Mr. Cameron has written that suggests that he has any hidden agenda, nor do I see anything in this article to suggest "malice"...much less Goebbelistic propaganda attempts.

I have witnessed from you the inability to be objective about the subject of Israel, even to the extent of attempting to libel posters who debate with you as "Nazis"...and your smears of Mr. Cameron cause me to call into question your own objectivity and ability to disseminate information rather than his.

And I'm saying this to YOU because we both support Israel's right to exist, and the goonery you and others here are using against those who may question your perceived perfection of Israel as a nation is downright shameful and outright embarrassing.

But the utilization of the concept of Thoughtcrime as a way to stomp dissenters - the method so many of us abhorred being used by the most rancid leftists - seems to be alive and well on this board, and is being used in the most puerile fashion.

Calling people who disagree with you - or who even dare to question your "wisdom" - "Nazis" and "brownshirts" enough, and screaming "anti-Semite" whenever you feel offended, might silence your critics out of fear, but it doesn't mean that you win the argument.

And I'm sure there are a few pro-Israel people on this board - like me - who wish to heaven you and your likeminded pals would quit "helping" us...although unfortunately they may be nervous about saying so, because throwing the term "anti-Semite" or "Jew-hater" around as frivolously as one does a Frisbee on the beach is becoming de rigueur with some people around here against those - even people who are on the SAME SIDE as them - who have the SLIGHTEST disagreements with Kommissar Wannabes. It is NOT helping us, it is NOT promoting any positive impression of Israel or its supporters, and it sure as hell is NOT helping to promote the concept of freedom of speech.

Race-baiters and other people who make a lucrative business out of being professional victims do the same thing with terms like "racist", because, you see, they know using labels like that about people who simply disagree with them don't have to be backed up with real evidence in order to put their critics on the defensive...or better yet, silence their critics altogether.

That kind of verbal blackmail is what makes Jesse Jackson a rich man! I would hope you would have a better sense of decency than to emulate someone like him.

Get off the "I'm An Offended, Oppressed Victim" Bandwagon, folks.

And bear in mind that the Nazis didn't hesitate to use that kind of rhetoric themselves for their own ends...

< /soapbox! >

146 posted on 12/17/2001 2:06:15 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
Mercuria: you are an ass! end of argument.
148 posted on 12/17/2001 3:16:22 PM PST by imperator2
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