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Fellow journalists upset at Geraldo Rivera for carrying gun in Afghanistan
The NandO Times ^ | December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST | By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press

Posted on 12/12/2001 12:48:32 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com

NEW YORK (December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST) - From his position near Tora Bora, Afghanistan, Fox News Channel correspondent Geraldo Rivera seemed more agitated by a question about carrying a gun than by the mortar rounds that just exploded nearby.

"I refuse to address that issue," said Rivera, speaking into a satellite phone. "It's been blown way out of proportion. It makes me sound like a tabloid talk show host goes to war. It's so unfair."

Yet Rivera's decision to bring a gun into a war zone where eight journalists have been killed has raised questions about whether it's a proper - or wise - thing for a reporter to do.

Many reporters say that carrying a gun is risky because soldiers would be less likely to believe a claim that someone is a journalist, making them potential targets.

"If the word gets out that a journalist is carrying a gun, it makes it difficult for everyone," said Peter Arnett, a former war correspondent for The Associated Press and CNN.

Rivera, speaking on Fox News Channel last week, said that "if they're going to get us, it's going to be in a gunfight." But when asked specifically by an anchor whether he had a gun, he was reluctant to talk about it, finally nodding yes.

He's traveling with two guards who have five guns between them, Fox spokesman Robert Zimmerman said. Rivera isn't necessarily carrying a gun in most situations, but has one readily available, he said.

While filming a report last week, Rivera ducked after a sniper fired a few shots in his direction.

"There are eight journalists already dead," he said. "I almost got killed last Thursday and, believe me, it wasn't because of a story in the New York Post that I was carrying a gun. This is a very dangerous place.

"That makes me feel ill, that suddenly it's become an issue that I'm putting journalists at risk," he said. "That's complete bull."

NBC forbids its correspondents from carrying firearms. ABC won't discuss its security arrangements. CBS and CNN said none of their personnel carries weapons, but it isn't a formal policy.

Steve Bell, a telecommunications professor at Ball State University who covered Vietnam for ABC News, doubts he'd be alive today if he were carrying a gun when captured by Viet Cong soldiers in Cambodia in 1970.

He sat in a car while his Vietnamese co-workers convinced the soldiers that Bell was a journalist, not a CIA agent.

"If I had been carrying a weapon, I doubt if that argument would have gone over well," Bell said.

Former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite, who covered World War II for United Press International, said all journalists he knew then adhered to Geneva Convention rules that they should not carry weapons.

Novelist Ernest Hemingway, who covered World War II as a reporter, angered fellow journalists in August 1944 when he joined a band of French resistance fighters. They were concerned about him blurring lines between journalists and soldiers.

Hemingway kept firearms, bazookas and grenades in his hotel in Paris, leading to an appearance before a military panel on allegations he was violating Geneva Convention rules concerning news correspondents. He claimed the weapons were in his room only because the military lacked storage space.

Carrying a gun could make soldiers "look at reporters, particularly American reporters, as some kind of opponent," said Arnett, who is heading to Afghanistan soon as a correspondent for an independent production company. "The whole point of being a journalist is to be detached."

Arnett said he hoped Rivera is trained in using a weapon. "I wouldn't want to be near him if he opened up," he said.

As a young reporter in Vietnam, Arnett admitted to occasionally carrying a weapon before he was convinced it was unwise. He hasn't since, he said.

Even if the journalists themselves are not armed, many news organizations - including The Associated Press - have hired armed guards for their personnel in particularly dangerous areas of Afghanistan. Expensive news equipment is considered tempting to thieves.

"I can understand wanting to have a bodyguard," said Alex Jones, director of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University. "I think I would prefer to have someone with experience both locally and experience in their kind of battlegrounds and keep my focus on doing my job."

But Jones said he wouldn't criticize a reporter who feels safer armed.

"I can understand both sides of the argument," Jones said. "What I can't understand is if you're carrying a gun and talking about it."

Rivera and Fox News Channel have both been outspoken in support of the U.S. war effort. Rivera, who left his CNBC talk show because he wanted to cover the war, has talked about killing Osama bin Laden if he had the opportunity.

He's less willing to talk about his own personal security.

"I haven't had a shower in two weeks and I have to defend whether I'm carrying a six-shooter?" he said. "It's just ridiculous."


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; geraldo; journalists
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Whatta maroon!
1 posted on 12/12/2001 12:48:33 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (dhuffman@awod.com)
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A maroon? I think Jerry is using his head. The execute journalist, rape, and assualt journalists over there. Look what happened to the terrorist supporting Robert Fiske. Jerry had better arm himself...
2 posted on 12/12/2001 12:52:48 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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I don't see too much sense in discussing it on television, but the fact the Geraldo is packin' heat and making the liberal propagandists mad and distraught is great!
3 posted on 12/12/2001 12:52:55 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
It makes me sound like a tabloid talk show host goes to war.

Well, he is.

4 posted on 12/12/2001 12:54:00 PM PST by white trash redneck
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
"There are eight journalists already dead," he said. "...This is a very dangerous place."

You know, I never thought I'd be defending Whorealdo, but here he's absolutely correct. And given that Peter Arnett disagrees with him, he's doubly correct.

Afghanistan is a very, very highly armed zone - you're not considered weird or unusual if you're armed, you're considered weird and unusual...and an attractive mark, when you're not.

5 posted on 12/12/2001 12:54:19 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Anything that gets Peter Arnetts pantys in a bunch, must be good
6 posted on 12/12/2001 12:56:00 PM PST by Mensch
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"...It makes me sound like a tabloid talk show host goes to war. It's so unfair."

Funny, that's what I thought he WAS.

7 posted on 12/12/2001 12:57:59 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: KC_Conspirator
The execute journalist, rape, and assualt journalists over there.

Four of those reporters that were killed were SKINNED.......probably before they died.

This is nothing except other journalists trying to tear him down because THEY either 1) can't get there or 2) are scared to go!

8 posted on 12/12/2001 12:58:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Who's the maroon? Geraldo is perfectly justified in carrying a gun. He probably has no interest in becoming some surviving, p*ssed-off Taliban's b**ch.
9 posted on 12/12/2001 12:58:18 PM PST by ikanakattara
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To: Billthedrill
IMO, he'd be stupid NOT to be carrying.
10 posted on 12/12/2001 12:59:06 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
They're just pissed that he beat them to to noteriety punch. I doubt he knows how to use the damn thing anyway.
11 posted on 12/12/2001 12:59:56 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Howlin
I WORSHIP GERALDO NOW.
12 posted on 12/12/2001 1:00:16 PM PST by hawaiian
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To: KC_Conspirator
I don't see what the big deal is, myself. It was SOP for the journos in Somalia to hire some of the local armed thugs citizens as security for their news crews. What's the essential difference between hiring half a dozen locals and carrying a piece for personal protection?

Jerry probably finds carrying his own to be a bit closer and more reliable than the locals. Who can blame him?

13 posted on 12/12/2001 1:01:03 PM PST by general_re
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I doubt he knows how to use the damn thing anyway.

I dunno. He's a pretty good amateur boxer.

14 posted on 12/12/2001 1:01:22 PM PST by angkor
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To: hawaiian
Are you joking, or are you serious? I think he's doing a great job!
15 posted on 12/12/2001 1:01:59 PM PST by Howlin
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Yet Rivera's decision to bring a gun into a war zone where eight journalists have been killed has raised questions about whether it's a proper - or wise - thing for a reporter to do.

This question kind of answers itself. War zone, eight dead reporters, is it wise to be armed?

16 posted on 12/12/2001 1:02:06 PM PST by SJackson
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To: KC_Conspirator
And of Jerry Rivers' opinions on gun possession by citizens that are unique in the world for their right to legally bear arms for their self-defense, what say you?

If you will quibble on 'unique' then please cite their document equivalent to the Bill of Rights.

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

17 posted on 12/12/2001 1:02:29 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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Even if the journalists themselves are not armed, many news organizations - including The Associated Press - have hired armed guards for their personnel in particularly dangerous areas of Afghanistan. Expensive news equipment is considered tempting to thieves.

Sounds like they hire armed guards mainly to protect the equipment.
18 posted on 12/12/2001 1:02:50 PM PST by dsmatuska
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Hopefully when Geraldo returns to USA he will be more understanding/appreciative of the Second Amendment.

Also, Peter Arnet should have carried a LIE DETECTOR and not a gun in Vietnam!

19 posted on 12/12/2001 1:03:44 PM PST by donozark
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
You already tried (on another thread) in vain to peddle your idea that covering a war means forfeiting your right to personal protection. The Taliban supporters have made it clear through their actions that no distinction will be made between combatants and noncombatants - even those noncombatants that are unarmed. Geraldo Rivera is doing what any sensible person would under the circumstances.

Unless you believe that less defense equals greater protection. Do you believe that?

20 posted on 12/12/2001 1:03:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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