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To: bassmaner
In your mind, we automatically go from a discussion of serious border security and punishment to a police state.

There's a whole lot inbetween, but you can't see it if you're stoned.

61 posted on 12/31/2001 5:12:28 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom;VA Advogado;Zon;tpaine;donh
In your mind, we automatically go from a discussion of serious border security and punishment to a police state.

It (the police state) is already well on its way. Try doing a bank transaction of $10K or more. Try carrying a large amount of cash on a plane or Amtrak train. And many misguided people are now clamoring for national ID cards -- guess what: it's law-abiding citizens who'll be scrutinized under such a scheme, while terrorists and other will criminals will fake their way through such a system, just like they always do. It may not seem too bad now, but once those liberties are gone, they ain't comin' back. Just like the proverbial frog in the slowly boiling water, you'll be cooked before you know it.

There's a whole lot inbetween, but you can't see it if you're stoned.

Oh, of course, resort to the ad homenim attack when you can't back up the argument. I shouldn't expect any less from a drug warrior.

68 posted on 12/31/2001 7:02:10 AM PST by bassmaner
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