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Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for Israel
Reuters ^

Posted on 12/26/2001 12:38:08 PM PST by madrussian

LONDON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), the world's most wanted man, said on a video broadcast by al-Jazeera satellite television on Wednesday that the September 11 suicide attacks were intended to stop U.S. support for Israel.

``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.

The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.

Looking tired but calm, bin Laden was dressed in a clean, camouflage-patterned combat jacket. He sat against a cloth or canvas screen, his Russian-designed submachinegun propped beside him. There was no indication where he was when he recorded the video.


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To: Lent
Thanks for the Jane's post.

To throw a monkeywrench into some of the discussions here, when has Al-Qaeda ever attakced an Israeli target? They got embassies too, for example. What does that tell you about Osama?

161 posted on 12/26/2001 2:08:45 PM PST by Shermy
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To: abwehr
This is going to be expensive. I guess we will have to give Israel some B-2's, F-117's and a nuclear powered aircraft carrier just so Osama can see we don't allow bearded savages to decide who we can support or not support.

I like your approach - whatever the SOB (or anyone like him) wants do the opposite, in spades.

162 posted on 12/26/2001 2:13:30 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Either/Or
Reuters statement on false claim it used old video September 20, 2001 Posted: 4:04 PM EDT (2004 GMT)

Reuters rejects as utterly baseless an allegation being circulated by e-mail and the Internet claiming that it circulated 10-year-old videotape to illustrate Palestinians celebrating in the wake of the September 11 tragedies in the United States.

RESOURCES

CNN statement about false claim it used old video

Reuters welcomes a statement by the Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil (UNICAMP), one of whose students was the author of the original e-mail, setting the record straight.

The videotape in question was shot in East Jerusalem by a Reuters camera crew on September 11 in the immediate aftermath of the attacks on the United States. The footage was broadcast by CNN and other subscribers to the Reuters video news service.

CNN on FALSE 1991 Story

164 posted on 12/26/2001 2:14:01 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
In the scheme of things, it's a moot argument.

They are still dancing. Figuratively.

Just last week one the networks interviewed Mid-east "Americanized" Islamic teenagers who have applied to come to the US for their studies and to a person they were glad for the attack on America.

Dancing fools and their FreeRepublic dance partners.

165 posted on 12/26/2001 2:14:45 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican
Dancing fools and their FreeRepublic dance partners.

Gives new meaning to that show "Dirty-Dancing".

167 posted on 12/26/2001 2:18:05 PM PST by Lent
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To: Logophile
You were also the one who cited bin Laden's grievances as reason to change our policies toward Israel.

Let's start over, since you seem to be confused. My position is really simple see if you can grasp it. The need for a change in policies was there before 9/11.

You are saying that now after 9/11 we should stick with the previous policies only because Osama doesn't want that. How more silly can it be?

As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

169 posted on 12/26/2001 2:29:39 PM PST by madrussian
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To: Either/Or
Not even one or two hours after the attack the major networks have prime footage of Palestinians celebrating in the streets.

Shall we expect your Zionist conspiracy theory to be made expressly or shall we leave it as a necessary implication of your post?

170 posted on 12/26/2001 2:30:30 PM PST by Lent
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To: Either/Or
Either/Or: the Palestinian spokespeople went through a lot of gyrations and trouble to explain away the celebrations in the West Bank and Gaza on 9/11. To me, that is the best evidence that the celebration photos were taken on 9/11.
171 posted on 12/26/2001 2:31:47 PM PST by dlt
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To: dennisw
WHY? Because Bin Laden is a Saudi! And a madly religious one. His version of the Koran forbids infidels on Saudi soil. Duhhhhhhhhh...

Wasn't John Walker saying that USS Cole got what it deserved because it shouldn't have been in a muslim port?

172 posted on 12/26/2001 2:33:43 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

Why would Israeli supporters be scared of an event that spoke for itself? We had a certain foreign poliy prior to 9/11, are you suggesting that our foreign policy is to be shaped by the demands of terrorists?

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

How did Israel set us up? What's more, Israel is not saying "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me", it's saying "you are my friend, aren't you going to let go of my arms and help me protect myself while I get beat on?"

173 posted on 12/26/2001 2:36:16 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: FreeReign
If I don't walk in a bad neighborhood because I may get hurt, that would be appeasement of one sort with small consequence.

No sane person would call that appeasment. Have your heard of cause and effect? Let's change the analogy since you are having problem with this one. Say it's not a human neighborhood, but an animal one. Will you venture there if there is a danger of a grizzly attacking you?

However, if LE doesn't work in a bad neighborhood because they may get hurt, that would be appeasement of a major kind with serious present and future consequences -- freedom.

I don't share your vision of America being a world policeman. Especially when you have a choice of backing one thug over the other one.

174 posted on 12/26/2001 2:36:16 PM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
Israel doesn't want to compromise, and is using its lobby in America to shape American foreign policy. American involvement there is clearly not based on simply American interests.

And as for "friends", there are no friends in foreign policy. The whole characterization of the relationship as such is an emotional blackmail.

176 posted on 12/26/2001 2:40:40 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Israel doesn't want to compromise, and is using its lobby in America to shape American foreign policy.

Oh it doesn't? Then why did Israel give back the lands it conquered in war initiated by arabs and is even negotiating to give back more. The only condition being that arabs recognize Israel's right to exist? What about peace with Jordan? israel is supplying Jordan with drinking water for FREE as a condition of peace. That's some good faith, when Jordan should be the one trying to show good faith, since they have attacked Israel before.

American involvement there is clearly not based on simply American interests.

Clearly it is.. As you put it there are no friends in foreigh policy

177 posted on 12/26/2001 2:46:05 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Either/Or
Fair enough. But do you really think that the Palestinians were the only people on this great earth that were celebrating the attacks?

Uh. I was glued to CNN for 72 hours straight, and they showed practically every muslims in different muslim states celebrating.

178 posted on 12/26/2001 2:47:16 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
Let's start over, since you seem to be confused. My position is really simple see if you can grasp it. The need for a change in policies was there before 9/11.

If you believe that the United States should change some of its policies regarding Israel, simply state what those policies are and why they should be changed. Quoting bin Laden simply confuses the issue, and leads people to the reasonable conclusion that you agree with him.

You are saying that now after 9/11 we should stick with the previous policies only because Osama doesn't want that. How more silly can it be?

Actually, I never said such a thing. I simply objected to the idea that we should change our policies to appease a vicious thug like bin Laden.

As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

I don't know about the Israel-firsters (whoever they may be), but I am less scared than disgusted by people (such as Bin Laden and you) who try to use support for Israel to justify terrorist attacks on my countrymen.

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

So now we are supposed to believe that Israel somehow "set us up" for the attacks on 11 September?

179 posted on 12/26/2001 2:47:34 PM PST by Logophile
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To: BrooklynGOP
Clearly it is..

I'd argue with that statement. Your honesty is refreshing. So we can dump the whole "abandoning our friend" routine from now on?

I guess next time Bush tells Sharon what to do and Sharon refuses, Bush can simply strong-arm Sharon, without being subjected to whining.

180 posted on 12/26/2001 2:50:18 PM PST by madrussian
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