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Why do I even start these things? ;-)
1 posted on 12/26/2001 7:05:20 PM PST by Optimist
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To: Optimist; Yehuda; dennisw; Alamo-Girl
Because many here need to read this!!!
2 posted on 12/26/2001 7:13:41 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Optimist
The Myth Of The Palestinian People

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An excellent and polished piece of writing. However, the Pa;estinians aren't going to believe it. Neither is anyone else with a knowledge of history. In 1945 there were two people of arabic descent living in Palestine for every Jew. Vall these people what you want, but they sure as hell weren't Puerto Ricans. In about 1920 the Jewish population was about 15% or less as recognized by the Jews. This is an admission that there were other people in the area.

3 posted on 12/26/2001 7:19:34 PM PST by RLK
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To: Optimist
Bump!
4 posted on 12/26/2001 7:20:05 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Optimist
Because you are an Optimist :)
5 posted on 12/26/2001 7:20:19 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Optimist
BTTT
7 posted on 12/26/2001 7:24:20 PM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Optimist
It's always amazing for me to note that for almost every Israel-basher the history of the world begins after 1967.
9 posted on 12/26/2001 7:28:58 PM PST by garbanzo
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To: Optimist
To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Canaanite tribe, the Phillistines, that died out almost 3000 years ago.

The Philistines were not Canaanite. They came from Greece. They were European invaders.

10 posted on 12/26/2001 7:35:40 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Optimist
Bump to read when awake.
12 posted on 12/26/2001 7:42:54 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Optimist
The whole Palestine gimmick is a load of CRAP. The Arabs were so confident that they would overrun Israel that they told the Arabs settlers to get out so they could destroy the Jews and then move back in. Didn't happen. Instead, the Israelis fended off attacks from the Egyptians and Syrians and won (this is a concept the mythites never seem to grasp). Then, the "refugees" -- another huge myth -- were left to fend for themselves without a dime of support from any Muslim nation for decades.

I honestly believe that very, very few intelligent, moral people have any genuine sympathy for the mythite cause -- instead, the cause has been hijacked solely for political purposes, rather than out of genuine concern over any unfair plight of those out of power in Israel.

17 posted on 12/26/2001 8:11:49 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Optimist
Thanks for posting. It is an interesting article.
18 posted on 12/26/2001 8:13:20 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Optimist
It is interesting to note that the Bible makes reference to a fictitious nation confronting Israel. “They have provoked me to jealously by worshipping a non-god, angered me with their vanities. I will provoke them with a non-nation; anger them with a foolish nation (Deuteronomy 32:21).”

NIV
They made me jealous by what is no god and angered me with their worthless idols. I will make them envious by those who are not a people; I will make them angry by a nation that has no understanding.

NASB
They have made Me jealous with what is not God; They have provoked Me to anger with their idols. So I will make them jealous with those who are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation,

KJV
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

I was stunned by this verse when I saw your post, especially the non-nation part, most translation states "those who are not a people". Still, a jumping off point for a bible study for sure ...
19 posted on 12/26/2001 8:16:42 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Optimist
Well, FWIW I will add this link to my small file of "inconvienient facts about Israel" that I keep for educating the boobs who show up here from time to time, and I thank you for posting it.
24 posted on 12/27/2001 12:45:30 AM PST by backhoe
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To: sjeann
bump!
25 posted on 12/27/2001 1:31:51 AM PST by Bellflower
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To: Optimist
Regardless of what Mr. Bin-Nun chooses to call them, there are about 3 million of them and they are all over the occupied territories. Would Mr. Bin-Nun suggest granting them citizenship and calling them Israelis?
28 posted on 12/27/2001 3:57:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Optimist
Thank you for posting this piece.

I hope and pray that many will read it, and gain some historical depth concerning the Land and the People of Israel.

Ignorance is the best friend of the fascist anti-semite anti-Christian propagandists.

Truth, on the other hand, is powerful.

58 posted on 12/27/2001 1:47:57 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Optimist
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem ... Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier!

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict; The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one 'Jewish' nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The UN was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem Synagogues.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

62 posted on 12/27/2001 2:25:31 PM PST by 68 grunt
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To: Optimist
Right on target. For the layman, Leon Uris wrote "The Haj". A very simple, and compelling look at the palestinian mindset.
107 posted on 11/30/2002 6:53:18 PM PST by widowithfoursons
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