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Archaeologists Find Celts in Unlikely Spot: Central Turkey
NY Times ^ | December 25, 2001 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 12/27/2001 11:45:39 AM PST by Apollo

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1 posted on 12/27/2001 11:45:40 AM PST by Apollo
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To: Apollo
Fascinating article. Explains why so many members of the Turkish upper classes resemble Western Europeans and demonstrates the true nature of the "ancient druidic religion" that modern-day Wicca cultists are trying to sell us.
2 posted on 12/27/2001 11:56:18 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Apollo
Nice post about the Celts, thanks.

The practice of human sacrifice existed in numerous societies, the Celts one of them. The book "How the Irish Saved Civilization" discusses the culture and society of pre-Christian Ireland.

Cahill notes that in order to appreciate the Light of Men, one should gain an understanding of how Dark the Darkness was.

Indeed, Christianity can change cultures for the better, and thank God that it does.

3 posted on 12/27/2001 12:04:22 PM PST by Bosco
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To: wideawake
I had understood the Celts came out of Hungary...
4 posted on 12/27/2001 12:05:23 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Apollo
"That certainly has the Celtic look," said Dr. Hicks, who is not involved in the project. "One of the Roman complaints about the Celts was that they still practiced human sacrifice. They said the Gauls were known for lopping off heads of men in battle, tying them to their belts and bringing them back to display for all their friends at home."

If it was good enough for great great grandad, it works for me too... gimme that old tyme religione....

Perhaps our celt ancestors knew something of warfare that we need to relearn today... The romans were terrified of the celts of the north... and considered them grotesque barbarians... Is this not where "beyond the pale" terminology came from? the pale being a wall that protected the roman outposts from invasion by the flesh eating celts?

There is lots to be said for the celts... yuletide logs, and roasting enemies for jove... pass the salt please.

Tis the season.

5 posted on 12/27/2001 12:07:17 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The earliest knowledge we have of the Celts, which is supported by most Greek and Roman textual evidence, is that they spread across Europe from the Danube valley.

This would indicate that modern-day Hungary was one of the original Celtic homelands. They spread from Central Europe as far south as Italy, Greece, Turkey and Spain - some even claim Northern Africa. There are Algerian Berbers with green eyes and reddish hair.

They spread as far east as Persia and perhaps even western China. And there were Celtic settlements as far north as Iceland.

6 posted on 12/27/2001 12:13:47 PM PST by wideawake
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The Celtic invasion and settlement in what is know Turkey dates back to Hellenistic times. I am puzzled as to why these archeologists are announcing a well know historical fact as an amazing new discovery.

The famous sculpture of the Dying Gaul was originally made at Pergamon to commemorate that city's victory over the Celtic invaders. The warrior in the statue wears the gold torque around his neck as was the custom among Celtic warrriors.

The Dying Gaul

7 posted on 12/27/2001 12:18:04 PM PST by Polybius
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Missing from this is statements about their women. They were described as large, muscular and capable of swinging a sward with the best.
8 posted on 12/27/2001 12:21:38 PM PST by James Lewis
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To: Apollo
Very interesting, but it has been posted before

here, and here.

9 posted on 12/27/2001 12:27:51 PM PST by machman
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To: wideawake
This was my dad's story, anyway. (He was Welsh)
10 posted on 12/27/2001 12:27:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: machman
Sorry. Did a search before posting with negative results. Maybe because of the server move?
11 posted on 12/27/2001 12:34:48 PM PST by Apollo
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To: Apollo
I missed it both times. Thanks for posting.
12 posted on 12/27/2001 12:41:35 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Apollo
Thanks for posting this.

My last name is McDonald.

I had a nickname, which I wore proudly, during my corporate career as Ming the Merciless

I had also credited my Celtic background for this.

When I lived in Germany, I used to visit the many Celt burian grounds. Huge mounds of earth.

When Jesse Jackson came to West Palm Beach, FL during the contested election, I frequently had visions of his head tied to my belt.

I settled on using my bullhorn due to my meek, retiring and tolerant nature :)

13 posted on 12/27/2001 1:03:47 PM PST by Seeking the truth
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We had a Ming the Merciless (corporate VP) at the oil company where I used to work. Anytime his nickname was mentioned in a group, the others would burst out with the "Flash, oooh-ahhh," from Queen's Flash Gordon theme.
14 posted on 12/27/2001 1:13:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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I had understood the Celts came out of Hungary...

Actually, the Celts came from Gaul, or modern day France. From that point they traveled to the British Isles, Spain, Turkey and Poland. The Celts in Ireland are actually the most true type of Celt having not been Romanized. If you look at an ancient Roman map you will see three Galatia's. All spelt differently of course. One in Spain, one in Turkey and one in Poland. It is now thought that the Celts, or the Gaul's as the Romans called them, were the dominant people in the British Isles, France and Spain before the Romans took control.

15 posted on 12/27/2001 2:13:09 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: machman
It's not that I have EVER done the same thing. ;^)
16 posted on 12/27/2001 2:17:04 PM PST by machman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Celts, Germans, Slaves, Indians, are all from Iraq really. Mesopotainia.
17 posted on 12/27/2001 2:25:02 PM PST by kampeska
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>Actually, the Celts came from Gaul, or modern day France.

The Celts passed through Gaul, and many stayed there, but they actually originated a long ways to the east. Click on my Profile to find out where they started.

18 posted on 01/03/2002 10:01:47 PM PST by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Thanks for the tip. It does make sense.
19 posted on 01/03/2002 10:46:55 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Apollo
This article is worth bumping again, a year later.
20 posted on 12/22/2002 2:49:03 PM PST by DensaMensa
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