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As a "primitive Protestant, " I find this article fascinating. Msgr. Sweeney's mistake he is leading too many average, working people to Christ. This is much the same criticism that evangelical Christians are familiar with.
1 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:30 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
I wish Msgr Sweeney lived in Ct.
2 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:32 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: shrinkermd
You're absolutely right. Conservative Catholics and evangelicals have a great deal more in common than their respective churches often like to admit. We American Catholics are too often confronted with a hierarchy that is liberal, non-traditionalist, and more concerned with wealth redistribution than, say, stopping abortion.

IMHO, the Second Vatican Council was a grave error. Not just for abandoning the physical and ritual trappings of the past 2000 years (though that was criminal in itself), but for the doctrinal confusion it created (for example, suggesting -- without quite saying -- that perhaps some people make it to heaven without Christ). The logical end result of this is what's happening to Fr Sweeny, condemned for actually mentioning hell(!) in a sermon. In this sense, I envy the evangelicals and fundamentalists for the clarity (if not always the content) of their doctrine. The American Catholic church could learn a great deal from this example.

Now, please tell me what exactly a "primitive" Protestant is. Is this the same as the "Primitive Baptist Church" signs I see by the roadside?

3 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:36 AM PST by silmaril
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To: shrinkermd
Success: find a need and fill it.
4 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:37 AM PST by Malesherbes
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5 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:37 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: shrinkermd
One of the reasons I left the "Left Coast" and returned to New Jersey was that I didn't feel like I was actually practicing Catholicism there.
6 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:38 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: shrinkermd
Thank God I live where you can still find parishes with priests such as Msgr Sweeney. Here's praying he can continue his mission. If not, let him move out here to the Heartland where he will be embraced.
7 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:43 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: shrinkermd
I enjoy the learned posts here but I think the problem is much simpler that some seem to see it. Bishop McGrath is a wimp who is giving in to the political correctness of our time and of that area. Some priests and bishops are just as interested in attending the chic cocktail parties and social functions as Washington journalists. Getting those invitations requires a high degree of liberal political correctness. After all, they don't want to seem uncaring to the local glitteroty.
9 posted on 12/29/2001 12:13:44 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: shrinkermd
Thank you very much for posting this! I drive 30 miles one way to attend Our Lady of Peace (OLOP) every Sunday just so I can get away from the moral rot of the parish in Morgan Hill.

Let me tell you this place is special. Just as the story says, there is perpetual adoration and has been for something like 30 years. There are priests in the confessional before every mass, and lines to get in too. There is a communion rail where an actual priest gives you communion with an alter boy holding a plate to prevent any chance of the body of our Lord falling to the floor. What I did not see mentioned in the article is that the 7:30 PM Saturday masses are in Latin, traditional on the first Saturday of the month and Novus Ordo on the other Saturdays.

I do find the steel statues of Our Lady a bit on the gaudy side. There are actually two statues, a large one visible from the highway and a smaller copy in a courtyard next to the church. People are always at the shrine praying and saying rosaries. The statue in the courtyard is always surrounded by fresh flowers.

Every mass I have been to has been well attended. Even with no obligation, the parking lot will be filled for weekday evening mass.

The parish is a leader in the pro-life movement in the area. Routinely the evil of abortion is condemned from the pulpit and we are reminded of our responsibility to fight against abortion. We are invited to join regular protests lead by the priests at abortion clinics.

A couple months ago I began attending the young adult group meetings with a lively group of orthodox young Catholics. While I have never heard an ill word spoken of the bishop, only prayers for his health and God granted wisdom, I still sense much trepidation about what will happen when Monsignor Sweeney retires and who will be sent to replace him. If someone is appointed who does not cherish all of the wonderful traditions that makes OLOP the special place that it is I will be heart broken.

11 posted on 12/29/2001 12:15:02 AM PST by Flying Circus
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To: shrinkermd
BUMP for a good and holy Monsignor!
12 posted on 12/29/2001 12:15:13 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: shrinkermd
I went to Our Lady of Peace for the first time on Christmas day. Its not the closest church to me by far, but it was the only one that had evening Mass on Christmas day (at least two, no less. I was defintitely impressed and will make an effort to go again. I don't think Msgr. Sweeney was the celebrant, but I didn't hear the name of the priest.
17 posted on 12/29/2001 9:00:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Askel5
Thought you might wanna see this...
24 posted on 01/02/2002 9:33:47 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: shrinkermd
Msgr. Sweeny's last Mass as pastor will be on July 14th. There is a banquet honoring Msgr. Sweeny this Saturday, June 29th. Tickets are still available, although maybe not after tomorrow morning. Those interested should calle the rectory at (408)988-4585.
34 posted on 06/24/2002 6:02:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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35 posted on 06/25/2002 11:42:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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