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Love is ... life without the pitter-patter of tiny feet (Angry Feminist alert!)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 1/2/2 | Rachel Roberts

Posted on 01/02/2002 6:49:27 AM PST by dead

Is it really so hard to understand, asks Rachel Roberts, that there can be more to a couple's relationship than having children?

I am one of a growing number of women who will elect not to have children. And at least in my experience, the decision to not have children isn't one that is met with much enthusiasm.

From the family, there are comments like "But don't you want us all to have kids playing together at birthday parties and barbecues?" and "I've just always thought that part of a couple's life together is having a family".

From friends, there are protests like "But you'd make such great parents!" or "You've had such a good family life, don't you want to re-create that yourself?"

On the whole, though, the standard response is scepticism. Brush-offs. "Oh, you say that now, but wait till you turn 30!" And "I thought that, too, when I was your age but, trust me, that biological clock really gets you."

Well, I am fast approaching 30 and I have never been surer that I don't want children. My partner feels the same. We have thought about it a lot and have decided time and again that no, it's not for us. We don't want to be woken up at all hours to attend a screaming infant that knows only the need to suck. We don't want to sacrifice our time and energy chasing death-defying toddlers or taxiing around teenagers who have recently learnt to hate us.

More importantly, neither of us (me, especially) wants to see my body torn asunder during childbirth. We already love our life the way it is, child-free. And that is why the brush-off response interests me the most.

It's as though those who either have, or some day want, children refuse to recognise other possibilities in life. They are mentally closing off to paths different from their well-worn one. Particularly for women, it seems that in the face of all political and cultural change, we can always rely on some things staying the same.

Thirty years on from second-wave feminism, people are still incredulous of the woman who declares she doesn't want to be a mother.

Feminists have long argued that the social and political resistance to women who choose to remain child-free reflects a far deeper cultural anxiety about what is expected of women. Traditional femininity is inextricably bound up with notions of mothering, nurturance and birth.

Since day dot, motherhood has been viewed as the natural female career. And now, thanks to an enduring belief in biological determinism, the desire to bear children continues to be seen in terms of instinct, as a drive that is universally hard-wired into the female psyche. To be a normal woman, we must at least want children, even if for some reason we cannot have them.

Yeah, yeah, I hear you say, we've all done Feminism 101 - tell us something we don't know. Well, having experienced the reactions couples meet when revealing that they do not want children, I suspect there is something more at play than simply challenging the traditional ideology that surrounds women. Certainly a woman who elects not to have children is treading a less orthodox path. However, it's not just the woman's decision to not have children that disturbs convention, but the man's as well. As partners they upset traditional understandings of what heterosexual love is about. Why do I think this? Well, when was the last time any of us saw a romantic film where one lover whispers to the other "I love you so much, darling, I never want to have your baby!" It just wouldn't seem right.

From wedding ceremonies to popular culture, we are saturated with the idea that children are the symbol of a man and woman's love for each other. Undoubtedly the outcome of their physical union, children are moreover portrayed as the embodiment of a couple's emotional bond. The place where a man and woman's DNA and souls enmesh.

Having children remains integral to our contemporary mythology of love and desire, and those couples who reject parenthood disappoint our romantic expectations. They let us down by not making what is seen as the ultimate declaration of heterosexual love.

So perhaps that is why society shrugs off couples who don't want children. Perhaps the sceptical comments from family and friends reflect an unwillingness to accept romantic defeat. At the very least, it shows a distinct lack of imagination when it comes to recognising signs of love.

After all, for couples like us, the real romance is in being child-free.

Rachel Roberts is a freelance writer.


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To: steve-b
"A reproof entereth more deeply into him that hath understanding than a hundred stripes into a fool."
Prov 17:10

"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes."
Prov 26:5

"[As] a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a proverb in the mouth of fools."
Prov 26:9

181 posted on 01/02/2002 12:32:29 PM PST by Pistias
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To: PaulKersey
If it doesn't, will you spell it out for me?
182 posted on 01/02/2002 12:33:53 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Reagan's_Mom
good god i never hated my partents as a teen, she sounds like another sicki................
183 posted on 01/02/2002 12:34:37 PM PST by angcat
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To: independentmind
While I'll grant you that it's harder to do a decent job raising a kid if all parents (leaving the door open for single moms here) work I think, especially in today's victim oriented society, it's dangerous to leave the door open to that being a why the bad parent can use. In the end if a parent (or preferably both parents) puts some real effort into doing a good job raising their kid the obstacles won't matter. If kids turn out bad it's because the parent(s) didn't do their job, there's probably a list of reasons the parent can bring up, some of which might actually be valid, but in the end the only real job a parent has is raising the kid right and anything they let keep them away from that job is their fault.

I don't doubt those daycare studies for a minute. I did a bit of daycare (my mom hated it, but it was unavoidable, dad was making a play to end support and letting me stay home unsupervised wasn't an option for a while) and it's crazy. The best way I could describe daycare is think of a prison riot done in half size with less lethal weapons. Because the people involved are not teachers there's nothing to do but play with the toys that are generally broken and there aren't enough to go around anyway; with no focus and no one really in charge it's a madhouse. I much prefered going home I'd just turn on the Barney Miller reruns and do homework or read.

184 posted on 01/02/2002 12:34:50 PM PST by discostu
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To: Utopia
Actually, I'm glad this woman decides to not have a child. This article proves she's very selfish and if she's selfish, she'll inevitably bring her child up that way and the last thing we need is someone like this author. I wonder if this person knows that at one point, she was a child. Yes, I'd hate to break it but at one point, she had to suck to be fed at one point in time. It's just natural. It's the way it is, been and will be.
185 posted on 01/02/2002 12:36:55 PM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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To: steve-b
"Whoever therefore hears these my words and does them, I will liken him to a prudent man, who built his house upon the rock; and the rain came down, and the streams came, and the winds blew and fell upon that house, and it did not fall, for it had been founded upon the rock. And every one who hears these my words and does not do them, he shall be likened to a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand; and the rain came down, and the streams came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, and it fell, and its fall was great."

Matt 7:24-7

186 posted on 01/02/2002 12:37:49 PM PST by Pistias
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To: francisandbeans
DITTO! She`s nuttier than squirrel poop!
187 posted on 01/02/2002 12:38:36 PM PST by mymanbush
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To: Pistias
Too many bent on Self-actualization and Self-gratification and Self-fulfillment could conceive of, much less long for, the absolute freedom and joy that is dying to self to live.

A good relationship is predicated on how well it fulfills their wants, not how well it perfects their being by addressing their needs ... including the need to change or sacrifice.

Children are a direct route to selflessness ... which selflessness seems an utter horror to most moderns, I'm sure.

188 posted on 01/02/2002 12:39:38 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Pistias
I think you missed something. You attacked (How am I flawed because I don't want children of my own?), to which I replied at length the implied question "why is having kids better?" or "why do you want to have kids?"; then I retorted why do you not wish to have children?, and you replied at length. Have you other counterpoints to make?

Let me get this straight. You called me (and others who are perfectly happy not to have children) "flawed," and when I asked you how this made me flawed, this is viewed by you as an attack? It seems to me that you making an assertion that many of your fellow posters being flawed could more accurately be viewed as an "attack." I was as polite as possible in asking you to explain your reasoning. When you asked me about my personal reasons for not having children, I answered as honestly as I could. Are you saying I'm not entitled to ask you the analogous question?

Apostolic grace aside, it can't be best, most fulfilling, and most beneficial without children.

There's no way that this is just your opinion? It has to be true for everyone?
189 posted on 01/02/2002 12:42:56 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Emmanual_Goldstein16
Nah I had a great childhood, not much money but lots of love which is more important anyway. As I put in other posts I don't want to outlaw kids or kill them or anything extreme like that, but I don't want them around me. Obviously it would be very unhealthy if the majority of people thought like I did, luckily they don't so that's just a hypothetical. Often times I'm asked (you didn't, but you kind of beat around the bush) "what if your parents felt that way", my answer is that if they'd had me anyway I'd be pretty POd. Kids shouldn't be raised in a household where they aren't wanted. Eventually they're going to be adults and whether or not they're useful adults will in many ways hinge on the love and attention they recieved as kids, and if people can't give that to kids they shouldn't have kids.
190 posted on 01/02/2002 12:45:12 PM PST by discostu
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To: Stone Mountain
There's no way that this is just your opinion? It has to be true for everyone?

Yes. Individuality is great, so long as we all do it together.
191 posted on 01/02/2002 12:48:47 PM PST by abandon
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To: Askel5
selflessness seems an utter horror to most moderns, I'm sure

Moderns see the Abyss beneath them, and know the outer darkness that awaits--what have they to do, having nothing but the meager self? To give of it is to hasten the coming dark--to expose their naked souls to Nothing by stripping away their rags--and they of all will most assuredly not go quietly into that dark night, even for children.

192 posted on 01/02/2002 12:48:57 PM PST by Pistias
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To: dead
No one will come visit them in the Nursing Home (which is where they will end up since they have no children to take them in once their youth and health is gone)
193 posted on 01/02/2002 12:50:16 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: Pistias

194 posted on 01/02/2002 12:52:56 PM PST by PaulKersey
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To: Phantom Lord
I really dont like little kids that much. They annoy me and they get on my nerves.

Yes, they can do that! ;0) But, children also have this wonderful capacity to turn rage and frustration into moments of sublime clarity, where the overblown importance of the moment dissolves into an understanding of more eternal truths. More often than not, the result is a chuckle and a hug.

Then again, some children are just jerks.

195 posted on 01/02/2002 12:53:44 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Stone Mountain
I had hoped "attack" wouldn't be taken literally--I meant it more along a fencing analogy than a "you've offended me!" line. Replace all instances of "attack" with "began your/my line of argument" and likewise with defend. I apologize for my lack of clarity.

Are you saying I'm not entitled to ask you the analogous question?

I answered it, as I said.

There's no way that this is just your opinion? It has to be true for everyone?

If religion is true, then it's true for everyone. If there is a human nature, a natural law, a purpose of some kind to humanity, then at some fundamental level it must be for all humanity. As far as "true for everyone" in the realm of having kids, please see post #156.

196 posted on 01/02/2002 12:56:37 PM PST by Pistias
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To: Stone Mountain
>If it doesn't, will you spell it out for me?

No, I think you know what I'm talking about. If not, here's a decent starting point:

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

And if you have a problem with that, then blame God for the system, not me.

197 posted on 01/02/2002 1:00:03 PM PST by PaulKersey
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To: Pistias
...the best life includes the best things in life, one of which are children.

Must the best life include all the best things in life?
198 posted on 01/02/2002 1:00:22 PM PST by abandon
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To: dead
Have children if you deserve them. Obviously you don't.
199 posted on 01/02/2002 1:03:55 PM PST by mbb bill
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To: abandon
Well, the best life would (I would imagine) include all the best things that could be had. As far as exclusive things, like virginity and childbearing, the best life would have to choose the better, and I would imagine this is where there would be differences in "best" lives depending upon the nature of the soul in question. At the level at which I can actually grasp, the best life available to most people would seem to be the generative married one. Much higher souls would probably be suited to much higher callings which may preclude childbearing.
200 posted on 01/02/2002 1:05:00 PM PST by Pistias
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