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1 posted on 01/03/2002 6:26:47 AM PST by cathway
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St. Paul said, "We preach not ourselves but Christ and Him Crucified". ...

This is why there are Protestants.

2 posted on 01/03/2002 7:09:49 AM PST by topcat54
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4 posted on 01/03/2002 7:18:10 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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Very good article, but ...and Rome is not well obeyed.

Rome rarely, if ever, chastizes its Bishops. When the Church is failing, the man at the top has to take the responsibility.

5 posted on 01/03/2002 7:20:52 AM PST by Orual
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Please visit the Diocese of Arlington, Virginia. You may find it to be a breath of fresh air.

AB

6 posted on 01/03/2002 7:27:03 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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A bump for you, if I may take that liberty.

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9 posted on 01/03/2002 7:47:44 AM PST by patent
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Bumping. Let me know if you want on or off the list. Click my screen name for a description.

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10 posted on 01/03/2002 7:48:35 AM PST by patent
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The Real Presence of Jesus in the consecrated species then was allowed to fade more and more even as the presence of Christ in "the people" was said to have also been rediscovered, and a new emphasis on the "priesthood of all" believers was separated from its traditional theological Catholic context and extolled in almost Lutheran tones. Indeed many priests and theologians suggested more and more that it was the celebrating congregation which "does the eucharistic action" (Bernard Cooke, The Future of the Eucharist Paulist Press, 1997 p.32).
IMO, the greatest danger to Catholicism is the tacit denegration of the Eucharist from being the life-giving, central sign of our faith (cf. 1Cor10:17) -- or, to use the words of the Catechism of the Catholic Church at #1327, "the sum and summary of our faith" -- to being an empty symbol. Reforms such as the removal of the tabernacle from the center of the altar to a dark, lateral niche send the wrong message about the centrality of the Eucharist to the life of the Church.

I'm not sure if I need to have the Catechism explicated during the homily, but I definitely agree that the bishops, priests and deacons should consult it frequently while preparing their homilies. Personally, I'd prefer a more substantial profession of faith in connection with the Eucharist that goes beyond the perfunctory "Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again." Perhaps a recitation after every communion based on something like Jn6:48-51, 53-58:
I am the bread of life. Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever.
Just a thought.
20 posted on 01/03/2002 9:08:56 AM PST by eastsider
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Thank you for posting this. The parish I grew up with grew more and more Protestantized through the years. This past Christmas Day I barely recognized the service there as a Catholic Mass. I thank God I've found a new parish with a priest who does try to convey the teachings of the Catechism instead of preaching peace, love, and flowers in every homily. There are still a few traditionalists out there.
32 posted on 01/03/2002 9:44:59 AM PST by GenXFreedomFighter
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Thanks for this thread! I am fortunate in having a pastor who "always" quotes Sacred Scripture, the Pope and the Catechism. And for the sake of our Protestant brethren who misunderstand us Catholics; The Pope, above all, "preaches not himself but Christ and Him Crucified" and the Catechism is nothing less than a precise explanation of the teachings of Christ handed down to us in Sacred Scripture as applied to the human family today.
38 posted on 01/03/2002 10:05:29 AM PST by ThomasMore
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I'm an Independent Baptist and don't have a dog in this fight, but I wonder how come Rome doesn't start excommunicating the modernists? Is it a fear of making the parishioners mad and seeing attendence drop off? It seems that modernists are a pox on all of our houses, whether Roman Catholic, Protestant, or Baptist.

-ksen

43 posted on 01/03/2002 10:22:12 AM PST by ksen
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44 posted on 01/03/2002 10:25:35 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: cathway
I think our parish is so lucky to have a priest who really believes and teaches the true Catholic faith.
66 posted on 01/03/2002 11:07:31 AM PST by tiki
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103 posted on 01/03/2002 6:05:17 PM PST by Bob J
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I wanted to ensure you saw this.
107 posted on 01/03/2002 7:09:57 PM PST by EODGUY
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