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To: E Rocc
Spoken prayer as part of the curriculum or events with a primarily secular purpose (the only things banned by the SC, by the way) was removed in 1962. Between then and the mid 90s there was one prominently reported school shooting, the "I Don't Like Mondays" incident.

Wow, are you in for a shock. Using the stats contained in the website supplied to me, there were 58 school related shootings, stabbings, bombings or combinations therof between 1962 and 1994. I discounted those incidents that were political in nature, for instance, the Kent State shootings and other such incidents. There was 5 such incidents before 1962.

72 posted on 01/05/2002 4:34:03 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
Spoken prayer as part of the curriculum or events with a primarily secular purpose (the only things banned by the SC, by the way) was removed in 1962. Between then and the mid 90s there was one prominently reported school shooting, the "I Don't Like Mondays" incident. Wow, are you in for a shock. Using the stats contained in the website supplied to me, there were 58 school related shootings, stabbings, bombings or combinations therof between 1962 and 1994. I discounted those incidents that were political in nature, for instance, the Kent State shootings and other such incidents. There was 5 such incidents before 1962.
If you are including colleges then we're talking about apples and oranges. Also, this is the time period that violent crime began to sharply increase in lower income areas, a trend that I don't believe anyone is going to rationally say has much to do with curricular prayer leaving the schools. Instead, it was due to corrosive liberal policies. The sharp increase since the mid-90s can be attributed to more liberal policies.

Again, the only thing the Supreme Court has forbidden is spoken prayer or other explicit and devotional religious content in classes or other events of a non-secular nature. These constitute "preference", and thereby Establishment because only one faith has a spot on the agenda.

If moments of silence, bible reading in study hall, religious groups meeting after school, etc., are banned, then they are banned by local and/or state action and such should be fought at that level. Personally, I think such bans might be found to violate the "free exercise" clause

-Eric

74 posted on 01/06/2002 2:29:42 AM PST by E Rocc
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