[arthurus]

temple may or may not qualify depending on where you set the bar.

To qualify as civilization, a place definitely has got to have a bar or two. A town is just not civilized without a saloon.

[blam]

"To qualify as civilization, a place definitely has got to have a bar or two. A town is just not civilized without a saloon."

Agreed. Any idea what kind of 'brew' they would have been drinking 9,000 years ago?

[RightWhale]

To qualify as civilization

Some kind of civic order is necessary for beer, bread, and cheese. Moose not necessary.