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Bush Is No Good Trade
WorldnetDaily ^ | February 18, 2000 | By Tom Flocco

Posted on 01/19/2002 10:44:54 PM PST by Uncle Bill

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This whole thread, discutions, postings et all could be summed up like..."beware of your "FRIENDS", will take of care of the enemy later"

... one is asking himself why the Republicans are such a loosers. Well this thread will be an example to start with, also have a long look in the bathroom mirror in the morning and ask yourself what the hell you want.

You see, one thing the Dems have, is that they stick togheter no matter what until they reach their goal and then they split the loot; we Republicans are like the mexicans...soon one of our candidates is in a higher position every fraction of the party is trying to drag you down for one reason or another, instead trying to work differences out like reasonable people. Everyone is trowing dirty laundry outthere for the Dems to catch and eventually to use against us.

I observed this practice on all levels and to be honest with you I am getting pretty frustrated with the "hollier than thou" crowd who think their shit don't stink.(posters on this thread included)When WE going to grow up and understand "P O L I T I C S"

221 posted on 07/16/2002 2:56:49 AM PDT by danmar
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To: rdavis84; Donald Stone
Bush’s Document Dilemma - Bush Should Release Documents - National Review - Byron York
222 posted on 07/16/2002 3:08:52 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill; ThanksBTTT
Thanks Uncle Bill.
223 posted on 07/16/2002 7:31:05 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Otto von Bismark
I observed this practice on all levels and to be honest with you I am getting pretty frustrated with the "hollier than thou" crowd who think their shit don't stink.(posters on this thread included)When WE going to grow up and understand "P O L I T I C S"

< pulling bald head out of carcass of dead horse >

Oh come now, this stuff tastes great. Here, have another piece of intestine...yum yum < sticking head back into carcass for another bite >

226 posted on 07/16/2002 7:53:55 AM PDT by going hot
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To: Uncle Bill; Joe Montana
Thanks for the info,helps fill in the details !!!!!!
228 posted on 07/16/2002 10:18:43 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Uncle Bill; glorygirl; Donald Stone; Paul Ross; rdavis84; nunya bidness; carenot
The Aloha Oil acquisiton by Harken was going to be a $15 million loss that Bush knew personally was coming and would very likely lower Harken stock if not cast doubt on Harken management. So Bush unloaded Harken before news of the Aloha Oil losses became known to stockholders. Harken went down to $3 a share and did not rebound to $9 a share for more than a year after Bush dumped his stock ( and shareholders too) and after the Aloha Oil losses were absorbed by Harken ( and the stockholders).

This one story that the SEC (totally stacked by Bush Senior appointees) did not properly address in letting Bush Jr off the hook. It is the one story that the Bush spin artists do not talk about and would not be able to easily or honestly overcome.

Why is no one in Congress or the major news media or in either political party, or conservatives ,etc, complaining that Bush is sharing US star wars missile defense technology (and eventually operational control) with the Russians and Putin?

I think many of the American people have given up any political resistance to their loss of freedoms, to legalizing millions of illegal aliens, to giving away US soverignity to the ICC and to allowing the US to dwell carelessly by giving Russia our missile defense and China our nuclear technology.

The new world order and world government is already here and many in Congress and Bush have embraced it and ignore the American people and our Constitution.

I have heard some Americans now say, it is too late.

The American people have no where to turn to or do they?

Americans should rely more on themselves and each other rather than their failed leaders. And more importantly, they can rely on God and Jesus Christ to turn things around if they have the faith and will.

229 posted on 07/16/2002 10:47:59 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Betty Jo; MizSterious
Please see reply #229
230 posted on 07/16/2002 10:49:29 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: edmund929
Please see reply #229. Thanks.
231 posted on 07/16/2002 10:50:47 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Americans should rely more on themselves and each other rather than their failed leaders. And more importantly, they can rely on God and Jesus Christ to turn things around if they have the faith and will.

Just curious:

I understand and agree with the first sentence. The second sentence has me puzzled.
I can understand how a person's personal life and family can and does improve with the faith in God and Jesus. I do not agree however, that God and Jesus care a whit about national or international politics. The Creator of the universe, and everything that is in it, both imaginable (by us) and unimaginable (by us) could with a blink and a snap of the fingers (or whatever mode of action that God would choose) can easily "turn things around" a few thousand years ago. So, why allow everything that is not politically good to occur, from day one to present?
Don't those who disagree politically have a God to pray to?

I believe God has higher priorities than the little politics that we mortal sometimes dabble in.

Just my 3 cents (John Huang has the monopoly on 2 ) :-)

232 posted on 07/16/2002 11:34:27 AM PDT by going hot
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To: OKCSubmariner; Uncle Bill
When the Power Structure exerts the kind of control over information sources , as there appears to be in this matter, there's a blowback effect. People just plain resent being steamrolled.

It took time for the cracks to appear in the TWA800, OKCBomb, Mena, etc, walls but they eventually did. We're 12+ years down the road from the Harken et al. story and a LOT of hypocracy has had to be put in the foreground to cover an incompetent poor little rich kid. And more and more folks are resenting that also.

The current drive toward near-dictatorial power for the "president" is the natural extension of the maintaining of Power for an Elitist Dynasty. And that Dynasty is not only the Bush family.

Forcing them into more abusive overt actions is what is coming next. It'll be done by those who've exhausted their tolerance capacity. We'll all see it, we'll all be affected by it.

And Revelations Predicts it.

233 posted on 07/16/2002 11:34:39 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: going hot; OKCSubmariner
"I believe God has higher priorities than the little politics that we mortal sometimes dabble in."

I'd like to jump in with my 1 cent's worth on that :-)

Personal Belief on the Grand Plan Offered here;

We've been given Free Will. WE determine whether our Souls will receive God's Promise. God doesn't Pre-Determine that for us, or He wouldn't win much of value, would He? Remember about the great cheers of his Angels mentioned in the Bible when one more Soul is saved?

He gave us His Plan in the Bible. An Unwitting part of our efforts to resist evil and satan's goals for us is that we'll help bring about God's timing for our world and humanity. God knows how it will end AND when. We don't. But He'll Judge us ALL based on how we used our Free Will and Faith in Him. I personally pray that my failures will be forgiven, and my accomplishments that are good in God's eyes are counted.

Just my 1 cent's worth. :-)

234 posted on 07/16/2002 11:51:37 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; Uncle Bill; OKCSubmariner; Wallaby
The best thread ever!

Bin Laden,Mahfouz!

Keep it up!

PS,I am an atheist,and don't think any of the Bible,God stuff has any relevance to any of this , except people reacting and acting as if it does.

What do I mean by that?....

No end times.


No god or the devil made me do it.

Just humans,a step above the chimps,choosing which banana to eat.
235 posted on 07/16/2002 1:45:01 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: rdavis84
I see, you like the smell of liberal media manufactured, and recycled garbage. What motivated you to bring this from the dump at this time? Is GWB's high approval, and the fast approaching election making you unconfortable?
236 posted on 07/16/2002 1:53:43 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: desertcry
"Is GWB's high approval, and the fast approaching election making you unconfortable?"

Not at all. :-)

237 posted on 07/16/2002 2:08:50 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; going hot; Uncle Bill; glorygirl; Marianne; Prodigal Daughter; Gal.5:1; carenot; ...
More on replies #229, #232,#233 and #234 :

Your words are wise rdavis84:

"But He'll Judge us ALL based on how we used our Free Will and Faith in Him"

You said it much better than I did. Thanks.

I do believe that Christians acting out of Faith in keeping the commndments and following Christ as an act of their own Free Will are a preservative of men and nations that can turns things around for America.

Nations are judged by God on this Earth while men are judged in the after life. Our Founding Fathers believed that also.

I fear, love and respect God. I want Christian men acting on God's commandments to preserve this nation so that our nation will not fall. Paraphrase from the Bible:

"If my people who are called by name humble themselves and call upon me and repent of their ways, I will hear and heal their land."

I have faith that these words are true and from God. God will keep His word. But will men in America do what is required of them to turn things around when God is willing to help them?

God sent Jonah to Ninevah to tell them to repent. Jonah did not want to go because he did not believe Ninevah would repent. But Jonah did go and Ninevah did repent and was spared God's judgement.

Habakkah and Jeremiah begged Israel to repent in their day. Israel did not repent and was taken into Babylonian captivity. But God used these men to give Israel many chances to repent before God judged Israel.

Today, God is giving America many chances to repent, to turn to Him. If America does turn back to God , God will keep His word and heal America and protect her. If not, the hedge or wall of protection will come down.

Nations serve at the pleasure of the Almighty.

God does more to keep the golden thread of life on Earth in tact than what men give God credit for. Just the act of His ignoring Earth after a time would ensure Earth's destruction. But God holds His creation together in spite of what men do because He is a God of Justice and Love.

238 posted on 07/16/2002 2:11:13 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Betty Jo
"Personal Belief on the Grand Plan Offered here;"

Betty Jo, no apology is offered by me for stating my personal belief in reply to goinghot. That belief brings a very large sense of Peace in my life. I only wish that many more could feel that Peace, but I don't preach it. That's just not in my personality.

BTW, who you callin' a step above a chimp? :-)

239 posted on 07/16/2002 2:17:38 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Appreciate your reply. Your personal beliefs are certainly welcome.

My problem is not with personal beliefs per se, rather with understanding just which political movement or view is sanctioned by God, protected if you will (as long as prayer is fervent) versus views that are given thumbs down by the Almighty.

For example, two football teams are on the field, kneeling and praying before God, that their team prevails. So... does God reward the team that is most pious? most vocal? most wailing? most teeth gnashing? what??

Just what criteria are used by God to decide which team prevails, or which political view is "the best"..in his view?

If he were disapproving of a particular view, why wait until sufficient numbers of the opposing view gained sufficient power to vote out the prior admin? Why not send down a little help, perhaps a bolt of lightening, or similar instrument of persuasion?

240 posted on 07/16/2002 2:39:28 PM PDT by going hot
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