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Towards a Lasting Middle East Peace
12/11/2001 | By: Rabbi Yisroel D. Weiss of Neturei Karta International

Posted on 01/20/2002 8:45:33 AM PST by Demidog

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To: Lent
Do you think you would have known the triggering device?

Exactly the reason it wouldn't be safe to shoot him and find out it was of the off until released variety.

301 posted on 01/20/2002 10:35:45 PM PST by Demidog
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To: takenoprisoner
Death to the intruder is the only reasonable and acceptable conclusion.

Not a problem with me. Put a trial together. Do it quickly. The family can wait a couple of days until after the dead are burried and a jury can be assembled. Putting that power into the hands of the police is a bad idea. You can execute him rightfully after the trial. Or can't you?

302 posted on 01/20/2002 10:38:36 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Do you know what the Intifada is? It's war. Do you knw what the Jihad is? It's war. War is hell. Until warring nations can fine tune their wars to your pristine moral sensibilities then such will be the process of life. Tell your Intifada friends to stop the Intifada then your concept of "due process" can be addressed.
303 posted on 01/20/2002 10:41:05 PM PST by Lent
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To: College Repub
I see nothing wrong with what was done to the guy.

That isn't what was wrong. He should have been executed. Just not there on the sidewalk seeing as he had already been subdued.

304 posted on 01/20/2002 10:41:19 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Exactly the reason it wouldn't be safe to shoot him and find out it was of the off until released variety.

B.S. You don't know how the triggering will occur. If you take him out then there is no question. Are you willing to gamble with people's lives oh righteous one?

305 posted on 01/20/2002 10:42:31 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
If you take him out then there is no question. Are you willing to gamble with people's lives oh righteous one?

No. That was the point. If you don't know then you are gambling. My guess is they're not so rash. They knew there was no explosive device which is exactly why the executed him.

Do not respond to me anymore. We will obviously never agree on a single thing. If I were to say that the sky was blue you'd figure some way to contradict the statement even if in fact the sky was blue. Good night.

306 posted on 01/20/2002 10:46:23 PM PST by Demidog
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To: UberVernunft
Wow, this thread has taken a turn for the worse.

They invariably do. I'd love to get through one where no post is pulled and nobody displays opinions which necessitate their banishment from this board.

307 posted on 01/20/2002 10:49:05 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Demidog
No. That was the point. If you don't know then you are gambling. My guess is they're not so rash. They knew there was no explosive device which is exactly why the executed him.

Oh you knew? Since how did you know what triggered it? And now you read minds and you what they were thinking.LOL! If you don't know then you don't take chances. You end his life from a sufficient distance as they did - outside the hall. Perfect. We'll leave the gamesplaying to you on your computer.

Do not respond to me anymore. We will obviously never agree on a single thing. If I were to say that the sky was blue you'd figure some way to contradict the statement even if in fact the sky was blue. Good night.

You may be one of the worst posters I've seen on FR. Post after post of inanities and then you exclaim you're hard done by.

308 posted on 01/20/2002 10:50:28 PM PST by Lent
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To: Demidog
If I were to say that the sky was blue

Well, the truth is the sky is not blue. The sky absorbs all colors of the spectrum except blue, and it reflects blue. That is why you see it as blue. But in fact, it is every color but blue. :-)

309 posted on 01/20/2002 10:53:34 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
Well, the truth is the sky is not blue. The sky absorbs all colors of the spectrum except blue, and it reflects blue. That is why you see it as blue. But in fact, it is every color but blue. :-)

LOL!

310 posted on 01/20/2002 10:55:15 PM PST by Lent
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To: monkeyshine
LOL...I think :)
311 posted on 01/20/2002 10:56:13 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Lent
Since how did you know what triggered it?

The explosive device is a figment of your imagination. However, if there were an explosive device, it would be impossible in such short a time to know what if anything triggered it. Thus it is probable that no consideration whatseover occurred in that regard.

312 posted on 01/20/2002 11:11:07 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
The explosive device is a figment of your imagination. However, if there were an explosive device, it would be impossible in such short a time to know what if anything triggered it. Thus it is probable that no consideration whatseover occurred in that regard.

I thought you said you didn't want me to post to you anymore? Are you lying again? You post to me you'll get a response. The device is not a figment of my imagination. The denial of its existence is a presumptuous luxury which guys like you can afford to make behind a nice comfy computer. Thank God you were'nt calling the shots.

313 posted on 01/20/2002 11:17:55 PM PST by Lent
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To: Demidog
You can execute him rightfully after the trial. Or can't you?

Not in a case of war and this is war. In war, you take out the enemy on the spot without prejudice and justice is well served.

You are thinking in terms of civil rights for a criminal in the US. We just had our first taste of terrorism on 9-11. But the Israelis have been dealing with the behavior and suffering extreme losses of life of innocents for decades. So when they drag a murdering terrorist out onto the street like the dog he his to eliminate him on the spot, then justice has been served johnny on the spot. They tagged the gunman and he received the just reward as the bogus "warrior" doomed for "martyrdom" he was. No need for trial or jury in the case of a war against terrorism when the "martyr" arrives at your door. It's either him or you. If me, then I choose him.

314 posted on 01/20/2002 11:18:47 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Lent
I thought you said you didn't want me to post to you anymore?

I don't. Stop. Or can't you control yourself? I will stop now. You'll note that I didn't say I wouldn't post to you. I couldn't let that silly thing stand.

315 posted on 01/20/2002 11:23:03 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
You'll note that I didn't say I wouldn't post to you.

You post to me you'll get a response. If you don't want me to post to you then don't post to me. Simple matter. Or is that also too hard for you to grasp?

316 posted on 01/20/2002 11:25:18 PM PST by Lent
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To: Demidog
post post post post post post post post post post.
317 posted on 01/20/2002 11:26:20 PM PST by College Repub
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To: College Repub
to post or not to post? That is the question. Are you aware of any reports that an explosive device was recovered from this guy?
318 posted on 01/20/2002 11:30:00 PM PST by Demidog
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To: College Repub
Hey college Repub now he tries to justify a position post facto. We didn't find an explosive device therefore we were not justified in believing there was one. LOL!
319 posted on 01/20/2002 11:32:19 PM PST by Lent
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To: Demidog
You can execute him rightfully after the trial. Or can't you?

Can't. There is no death penalty in Israel. That law was waived only once for Eichmann and never used again. That is why terrorist groups like Hamas and Hizbullah kidnapped Israelis and hijacked planes and ransomed them for hundreds of other terrorists in Israeli jails.

320 posted on 01/20/2002 11:42:44 PM PST by Nix 2
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