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To: is_is
NO...

Because it hasn't happened when it is predicted, over and over and over and over again, means that each time it has been intimated, it was a lie, used to sell books, raise money, or build a following.

Men lie ya know, even alleged religious leaders. Some deceive and others ARE deceived. Believe what you want. We need to live for right here, in the present, where God dwells with us, not in some imaginary and uncertain event for the future. While it is still called today, we need to live our lives. Planning for the future in practical terms is good stewardship. Get a job, raise your kids, love your family and friends, and face the FACT, unless there is a miracle that has not occured for 2000 years, we are ALL going to die, and most likely there will be no "magic curtain" for us, just as there has not been for the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of beleivers who have gone on before us.

That is not a bad thing, it's a good one.

59 posted on 01/24/2002 11:44:09 AM PST by eccl1212
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To: eccl1212
you and i have no disagreement as to how we are to live....I believe exactly what you said so well in your reply. For me....there are things in the bible that are argueable....such as how God actually created the universe, earth, etc....i think he intended (i think...lol...everything he did/does is intentional)it that way....it all comes down to faith in him....he had the ability to have left irrefutable evidence (i know for those of us who believe he did) that even the most unrightous man could not refute....the prohphecies could have been written so that no man would question the sequence of events....but he wanted us to study and discuss in order to learn more about "HIM"...... but there is one point that he was/is absolutely clear on.....salvation....and how and only how to receive it.....
65 posted on 01/24/2002 12:00:54 PM PST by is_is
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To: eccl1212
Because it hasn't happened when it is predicted, over and over and over and over again, means that each time it has been intimated, it was a lie, used to sell books, raise money, or build a following.

I have read all the books in the series and not once do they claim to know WHEN it will all happen. They don't give dates so you can't say that they are predicting any sort of day it will happen...

70 posted on 01/24/2002 12:27:47 PM PST by ag2000jon
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