[John Jamieson]

Actual detroit makes some 60 mpg cars but sells them only outside the US. VW makes a 100 mpg car called the Lupo. (Recently posted on FR).

I think the hybrid cars are frauds that will soon be the subject of lawsuits. Everyone of them would make more sense without the electrical garbage. The cost and weight they're carrying are not a good trade for the fuel they save, until that fuel costs $11 a gallon!

[John Jamieson]

PS. What woke this thread up again?