[Bobby777]

yes, like Calvinsim at it's most basic, Scripture is ignored in favor of quotes ... the Beast out of the bottomless pit is the Devil ... Hell was prepared for the Devil and his angels ... not for mankind ... people only end up there by rejecting the Gospel ... John 3:17-18 ... however I've learned that the obvious context of Scriptures, taken as a WHOLE, do not usually work in these discussions ... I'll stick to the Scriptures solely on the subject ... FReegards ...

[rwfromkansas]

excuse me? So you post your little proof-text and somehow think we are the ones ignoring the Bible? Nonsense....We have posted 10 times as many Scriptures as you have even bothered to mention.

[rwfromkansas]

Explain how one can be written in the Book of Life from the foundation of time without predestination. Take into account the enslaved nature of man and chaos of free will. Take into account that foreknowledge in Scripture does not mean just merely looking ahead in time. I mention the last point because Arminians would try to say that people get in the B. of Life because God looks ahead, sees who all chooses him, and then he writes their name in that book. There can be no such interpretation of this passage.