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Kidnap case opens doors to a secret world built on sexual fantasy
SignOnSanDiego ^ | March 3, 2002 | Anne Krueger

Posted on 03/05/2002 2:23:35 PM PST by MizSterious

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To: golitely
The article forgot to mention how many pedophiles become priests---or else becoming a pedophile is an occupational hazard of being a priest.
21 posted on 03/05/2002 2:51:10 PM PST by MHT
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To: scholar
The artcile and stated opinion of shrink Dietz are not worth a used shoelace.
22 posted on 03/05/2002 2:51:51 PM PST by bvw
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To: Eva
So do I - it's not an uncommon tool for lesbians to recruit from disgruntled runaway girls.
23 posted on 03/05/2002 2:54:19 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
The woman I knew molested her own daughters.
24 posted on 03/05/2002 2:56:52 PM PST by Eva
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To: golitely
Virtually all known pedophiles are male

Then how do you explain two different FEMALE teachers being convicted (and one getting pregnant twice because of) child molestation of teenage boys.

This is the most sexist article I've read in a week.

Go take your feminist man-hating propaganda elsewhere.

25 posted on 03/05/2002 2:58:33 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: bvw
At least 10% of the population, right? Why, next they'll be telling us that they were born that way - that God gave them a "special gift" to "love" children. Or that they are hardwired such that to look upon an adult in sexual way is repulsive to them. Blah, blah, blah.....

My guess is that about 10% our entire population is twisted on so many counts - and it's all the same 10%.

26 posted on 03/05/2002 2:59:40 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: bvw

Memorials to Danielle moved from Dehesa site to Sabre Springs park

By Irene McCormack Jackson  
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

March 5, 2002

BEFORE.....

AND...

AFTER

JERRY RIFE / Union-Tribune
Volunteers removed items left in memory of Danielle van Dam from the site where her body was found.
Volunteers moved hundreds of bouquets and stuffed animals yesterday from beneath the Dehesa oak where Danielle van Dam's body was found to a Sabre Springs park the family favors as a place of remembrance.

No sooner had the East County site been cleared, however, than more people brought flowers and cards. Others stopped to pray.

"I think this is more of the place to pay respect," said Eckart Kock, a San Diego resident who came to Dehesa to remember the 7-year-old girl who was kidnapped from her room after her father put her to bed the night of Feb. 1.

On Friday, the child's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, asked people to visit a table set up in front of their Sabre Springs home or a small, nearby neighborhood park at the intersection of Mountain Pass and Springhurst Drive.

"Our hope is that those who wish to pay respect to Danielle's memory do so at the place where she often played," said a statement posted on the family's Web site. "We want to celebrate her life over all else."

Sara Fraunces, who maintains the Web site www.daniellemissing.com, said clearing the Dehesa memorial site was not something the family requested.

"I think it was something that the volunteers took upon themselves to do," she said.

By late yesterday afternoon, the Sabre Springs park was nearly covered by a shrine of flowers, teddy bears and ceramic angels. Neighbors watered wilting flowers that encircle a picture board documenting Danielle's short life.

The van Dams visited the minipark yesterday.

"I was out there with Brenda and Damon. They were touched but they are also overwhelmed," Fraunces said. "It's very, very difficult. And there's still so much to get through for them."

As dozens of people parked and walked to the Dehesa site earlier in the afternoon, volunteer Mitch Harris continued to cut down balloons, bag bouquets and pack stuffed animals into large plastic bags.

Tina Baker and Lloyd Noss of El Cajon brought a bouquet of pink flowers. When Harris told the couple he would be bagging it with everything else, they went back to their car to drive to Sabre Springs.

"We wanted to bring them here and I wanted them to stay here. I wanted to pay my respects," Baker said after walking to the Dehesa oak. She and Noss had searched for Danielle several times while she was missing.

Noss said he understood why the parents would want people to remember Danielle where she enjoyed life. "But people are always going to go where people were found," he said.

A large sign, giving directions to the family-recommended memorial sites, was posted at the bottom of a wooden stairway built last week by firefighters at Dehesa.

When Harris drove away about 2:30 p.m., his station wagon was stuffed with mementos. Only several white crosses, a trellis woven with flowers, a bench and several planted bushes remained.

But two minutes later, people carried a bouquet up the stairs and laid it on the ground. A woman followed with another. Others carried balloons.

The pilgrimage continued through the rest of the day.

Last night, about 200 people remembered Danielle with a candlelight vigil at the Carmel Mountain Ranch-Sabre Springs Recreation Center. Shortly after sunset, mourners held candles to the sky and spelled out Danielle in the outfield of the softball complex at the center.

Some broke down in tears as the candles flickered and two giant video screens played home videos of Danielle with her family set to the music of Sarah McLachlan's song "Angel."

The event, sponsored by Clear Channel Radio Stations, also recognized volunteers who searched for Danielle in the weeks following her disappearance.

27 posted on 03/05/2002 2:59:52 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Eva
We have documented accounts of it in this state where lesbians have become "foster parents" to young girls in trouble with the law....
28 posted on 03/05/2002 3:00:43 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: golitely
Poor Westerfield. Would they mind much if I had a chat with him alone? Maybe just 30 seconds? Please?
29 posted on 03/05/2002 3:01:37 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: golitely
Here's a real good case of social--political... Pedophilia.
30 posted on 03/05/2002 3:03:09 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Exactly it's a man bashing article passed off first as a hit on Westerfield and then mutates to man-hating pyscho-babble by "experts".
31 posted on 03/05/2002 3:03:17 PM PST by bvw
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To: scholar
I don't know, there's always a first. Westerfield is the number one suspect, and it looks like they have the goods on him. He really screwed up, tho. Seems he was the only one gone from the neighborhood that morning when the search began.

The 13 (convicted) registered sex offenders who live in the van Dam neighborhood were all at home...this time.

sw

32 posted on 03/05/2002 3:07:24 PM PST by spectre
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Dietz said a sexual interest in children usually develops in early adolescence, and is a sexual orientation just like an interest in men or women."

NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame.


To be fair, there is evidence to support this theory, but regardless of that, pedophelia behavior has to be a crime because children need to be protected.
33 posted on 03/05/2002 3:11:46 PM PST by moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing
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To: anniegetyourgun
Homosexuals have said for years that their sexual desires are just another kind of "sexual orientation" that they didn't wake up one morning and say "Gee I think I'll become a homosexual because it's so much fun", that they have had those desires for a long time. I agree that their sexual desires did not come upon them all of a sudden one morning. However they seem to argue that because it began at a young age and has persisted throughout their life then that makes the desire "normal".

They refuse however (at least in public and in large numbers) to grant pedophiles that same affirmation ie pedophiles don't wake up one morning and say "I think I'll have sex with children today" and they have had those desires for a long time so those desires must be normal.

That day is coming though, in fact it is upon us. The normalization of one sexual perversion opened the door to legitimize them all and the homosexual community has done so particularly concerning public sex and sadomachochism. Did you ever see S&M paraded down main street in a St. Paddy's Day parade? Nope. But every single homosexual pride day parade does it big time and in yer face.

34 posted on 03/05/2002 3:11:54 PM PST by ethical
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
This is another psychologist who should loose his license. I suppose his general population is made up solely of rapists and other perverted psychopaths. Saying child molesters aren't any likelier than the general population to be murderers is like saying that used car salesmen aren't any likelier than the general population to lie.

Do you have stats saying otherwise? I'm not saying your wrong, but let's be intellectually honest here. You cannot spout off anything and have it be true.

35 posted on 03/05/2002 3:14:34 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: anniegetyourgun
Are you in WA?
36 posted on 03/05/2002 3:15:25 PM PST by Eva
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To: realpatriot71
But spouting off anything is just what this article is all about. Does it magically transform into "fact" and "authoritative" just because it was published in a newspaper?
37 posted on 03/05/2002 3:17:46 PM PST by bvw
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To: moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing
Evidence of the ilk that breathing causes murder because all murderers breathe.
38 posted on 03/05/2002 3:19:25 PM PST by bvw
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To: anniegetyourgun
I agree, the writings on the wall. Perverts will not stop with homo/lesbo special rights. The left-out perverts will demand their special "minority status" as well. Be prepared it's commin'.
39 posted on 03/05/2002 3:24:41 PM PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit
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To: bvw
But spouting off anything is just what this article is all about. Does it magically transform into "fact" and "authoritative" just because it was published in a newspaper?

Dietz is a forensic psychiatrist, a physician with training in dz's of the psyche. I tend to put more stock in what this guy has to say about the pedaphilia than some "joe" running his mouth in the forum. If you've got stats that show otherwise show them - put up or shut up.

40 posted on 03/05/2002 3:24:49 PM PST by realpatriot71
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