[anniegetyourgun]

"Dietz said a sexual interest in children usually develops in early adolescence, and is a sexual orientation just like an interest in men or women."

NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame.

[Redcloak]

Noticed that, huh? "It's just another orientation." Soon to be "It's a hate crime to say anything negative about them."

[bvw]

Dietz also put out this bit of deadly poison:

"The only tremendously strong characteristic is wanting to be around children, normal adults, particularly men, don't want to be around other people's children unless they're being paid for it."

Meaning only approved by-the-government care workers can oversee children, no Little League coaches, no soccer league coaches, no Cub or Boy Scout MALE leaders, etc. etc.

[bvw]

Also the article raises the latent-pedophile bogeyman -- there can be as many as one wants to imagine, and anyone can be one:

No one knows how many pedophiles there are because no large-scale surveys have been done. And, because most never act on their sexual fantasies, researching the issue is problematic.

Problematic, but gee golly, they know they are out there -- everywhere!

[Ronaldus Magnus]

"The overwhelming majority of people with pedophilia are not murderers," he said. "There's no higher frequency among pedophiles than among the general population."

This is another psychologist who should loose his license. I suppose his general population is made up solely of rapists and other perverted psychopaths. Saying child molesters aren't any likelier than the general population to be murderers is like saying that used car salesmen aren't any likelier than the general population to lie.

[moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing]

"Dietz said a sexual interest in children usually develops in early adolescence, and is a sexual orientation just like an interest in men or women."

NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame.

To be fair, there is evidence to support this theory, but regardless of that, pedophelia behavior has to be a crime because children need to be protected.

[ethical]

Homosexuals have said for years that their sexual desires are just another kind of "sexual orientation" that they didn't wake up one morning and say "Gee I think I'll become a homosexual because it's so much fun", that they have had those desires for a long time. I agree that their sexual desires did not come upon them all of a sudden one morning. However they seem to argue that because it began at a young age and has persisted throughout their life then that makes the desire "normal".

They refuse however (at least in public and in large numbers) to grant pedophiles that same affirmation ie pedophiles don't wake up one morning and say "I think I'll have sex with children today" and they have had those desires for a long time so those desires must be normal.

That day is coming though, in fact it is upon us. The normalization of one sexual perversion opened the door to legitimize them all and the homosexual community has done so particularly concerning public sex and sadomachochism. Did you ever see S&M paraded down main street in a St. Paddy's Day parade? Nope. But every single homosexual pride day parade does it big time and in yer face.

[arepublicifyoucankeepit]

I agree, the writings on the wall. Perverts will not stop with homo/lesbo special rights. The left-out perverts will demand their special "minority status" as well. Be prepared it's commin'.

[L.N. Smithee]

NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame.

Living in the belly of the beast -- Sin Freaksicko, Calipornia -- I concur. I still remember when it was weird to see men dressed in drag when walking down streets outside seamier gay areas. Now, the city will pay for sex-change operations for its employees.

I have said it before, and will say it again -- societal change doesn't come in quantum leaps; it comes in tiny baby steps. After a while, when you turn around, you can't believe how far you have strayed from where you were.

[VOA]

NAMBLA's dream shrink.

Just a guess...but I think this article is probably an exercise in selective quoting which
can reasonably lead to the conclusion that Dietz gives moral equivalency between pedophilia
and normal adult heterosexuality.

I doubt that Dietz was saying that pedophilia was a normal orientation...rather that
that is the direction in which pedophiles direct their libidinal urges.

The reason I think this article is probably poor journalism is that Park Dietz
was the fellow who blew away Jeffrey Dahmer's insanity defense by showing
(using Dahmer's own words from interviews) that Dahmer knew what he was doing,
knew it was wrong, and had to fortify himself with alcohol in order to do the deed.

The profile I saw on Dietz leads me to believe he most often is working to put the
bad guys into jail for a long, long time.

At the close of the interview he said something like the real problem with our
justice system is this: there are about 5 million sociopaths in our country...
and we've only locked up about half of them.

He sure sounded more like an expert witness for the prosecution in the interview.

I think the interview was on Sixty Minutes II. I was sort of suprised because
Dietz didn't sound like a "coddle the criminal" guy...but they profiled him anyway.

[VOA]

For your further perusal on Park Dietz...

I lifted this from a Court TV summary on the Menendez case at:
http://www.courttv.com/casefiles/menendez/summaries/ts17.html


Over the years, Dr. Dietz has testified in numerous high-profile trials.
His critics say his testimony always favors the prosecution. He has helped
prosecutors win convictions against Betty Broderick for fatally shooting her husband
and his second wife, and serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.

During his testimony, Dr. Dietz also rejected other conclusions presented by the
defense's expert witness.

The defense claims Erik could not just leave his abusive environment because
he suffered from learned helplessness, a symptom of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
But Dr. Dietz said the fact that Erik left to buy shotguns, loaded the weapon and
went to a shooting range to learn to fire the weapon showed rebelliousness and
assertive behavior, inconsistent with the passiveness of learned helplessness.

I really suspect the Union-Tribune writer didn't give us ALL of Park Dietz's
real views on pedophiles.
I suspect, given his track record, he probably enjoys convicting and locking them up.

[jamaly]

"Dietz said a sexual interest in children usually develops in early adolescence, and is a sexual orientation just like an interest in men or women."

NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame

That is a repulsive thought, but you are absolutely right. Give them a few years and they will be indoctrinating our children to this "acceptable" lifestyle. All those who find it repugnant will be harshly criticized as narrow-minded, biggots.

They can start calling me a biggot right now. Because nothing they can ever say to me will make me believe that is acceptable behavior.

[SkyPilot]

"Dietz said a sexual interest in children usually develops in early adolescence, and is a sexual orientation just like an interest in men or women." NAMBLA's dream shrink. Herein lies the seed of the lie that will be watered for a few more years and blossom into a new protected class of people who will parade in the streets - taking pride in their shame.

Annie - this should be the FR Quote of the Week.

[eno_]

Technically, it may be true that pedophilia is "just another orientation." I doubt pedophilia can be eradicated. that doesn't mean it must be tolerated. There are lots of bad things we will never be rid of. Homosexuality is probably linked to pedophilia in some way. And there are probably variations on pedophilia: The "pedophile priests" scandal mainly involves adolescent boys, and has a particularly high incidence among homosexual priests, whereas "pedophilia" in general is a sexualization of pre-pubescent children. So NAMBLA may be correct in saying that homosexual man are "naturally" drawn to adolescent boys. But so what? It is also "natural" for an agressive dog to eat a baby. It's still a bad thing that should be avoided.

[Fury]

"Normal adults, particularly men, don't want to be around other people's children unless they're being paid for it."

I have several nieces and nephews and I like being around them. What does that make me?