[luvbach1]

I am not an Israel hater, far from it, but I am an American first. Israel will attack anyone they perceive as damaging to their interests, as they obviously considered our surveillance ship, albeit in international waters, to be. The facts are well known, I won't recount more than a few: broad daylight attack; large US flag flying; extended-duration attack, etc. One thing is indisputable, the Israelis are anything but stupid, so the credibility of this being an accident is absolutely nill.

[Nix 2]

One more time:

Re: the Liberty and the Pueblo. Tell us about how the NSA deliberately cut the ship off from normal command and control without telling the Navy in order to play stupid spook games. Notice that the USN no longer operates that kind of ship--they told the NSA to go have an improper relationship with themselves. That won't be an issue this time around.

Posted on 10/04/2001 05:31:59 PDT by Poohbah

To: Poohbah

Re: the Liberty and the Pueblo. Yeah, tell us about how the NSA deliberately cut the ship off from normal command and control without telling the Navy in order to play stupid spook games.

Notice that the USN no longer operates that kind of ship--they told the NSA to go have an improper relationship with themselves.

These are the facts. Why haven't they appeared from some of you in the know types on the rotten Liberty threads that permeated FR blaming Israel for what the NSA did? The NSA never even informed the Commander of the Liberty what they were doing or why...let alone the crew. They boarded in secret and set up shop restricting any crew members from entering their lair. They knew exactly what they were doing, but the innocent crew did not. And the NSA never has come clean, preferring to allow the entire world to blame Israel for an unprovoked attack. They allowed the Pueblo's crew to be imprisoned for their (NSA's) incompetence and then blamed the Captain for *confessing*. Jeez!!!