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Border Patrol encounters Mexican soldiers: Heavily armed foreign troopers on U.S. turf near Tecate
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, March 16, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 03/16/2002 2:15:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2

A U.S. Border Patrol officer has encountered four heavily armed Mexican army soldiers on the U.S. side of the border near San Diego.

The soldiers, armed with three submachine guns and one M-16 rifle, crossed the border near Tecate, Mexico, while on a counter-drug mission, Border Patrol spokesman James Jacques said. They were all dressed in camouflage fatigues, said officials.

A Border Patrol agent, who was not identified in the SanDeigoChannel.com report, said he was following footsteps left by the Mexican patrol. When he encountered them, one of the Mexican soldiers had his sidearm unholstered.

The agent then unholstered his sidearm and identified himself. He told superiors the Mexican troopers then realized they were inside the U.S. and cooperated with the Border Patrol agent, who took them to a nearby Border Patrol station.

Their identities were verified by the Mexican consulate and other U.S. officials before they were returned to Mexico via the San Ysidro Port of Entry. The report did not say whether their weapons were confiscated.

"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy," Jacques told reporters. "Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed."

The Border Patrol's Washington, D.C., headquarters did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

The March 10 incident signals a growing trend of Mexican military forces crossing into the United States.

In March 2000, WorldNetDaily reported that a group of Mexican soldiers fired on Border Patrol officers.

On March 14, 2000, "two Mexican army Humvees carrying about 16 armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico," said a statement issued at the time by the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 8,300 "non-supervisory" Border Patrol personnel.

There the vehicles pursued a Border Patrol vehicle, which was "outfitted with decals and emergency lights (that were activated for much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States," the union said.

The lead Mexican army vehicle, said the council, contained nine soldiers "armed with seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun and two .45 caliber pistols," and was eventually apprehended by other Border Patrol units.

The second Mexican army Humvee, however, "pursued a Border Patrol agent on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then disembarked their vehicle, fired upon one more Border Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing [back] to Mexico in their vehicle."

Then, in November, two border patrolmen who had just disembarked from a "clearly marked Border Patrol helicopter" immediately came under fire from a 10-man unit of what appeared to be soldiers with the Mexican army, according to L. Keith Weeks, vice president of the National Border Patrol Union Local 1613 in San Diego, Calif.

The second incident reportedly occurred Oct. 24 in Copper Canyon, about eight miles east of the Otay Mesa Port of Entry.

About eight shots were fired, Weeks said. "Once other Border Patrol agents neared the scene, the soldiers retreated to Mexico and drove off in a minivan," he added.

News of the incursion comes as President Bush earlier this week convinced the House leadership to attach an amnesty bill to a series of other non-controversial bills that usually don't require much debate. The measure was passed.

Critics of Bush's bill say the granting of amnesty to millions of illegals rewards illegal behavior, worsens domestic security and demoralizes the Border Patrol and other law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration laws.

On Wednesday, Bush signed into law the "Family Sponsor Immigration Act of 2002," which, the White House said, "allows an alternative family member to sign the necessary affidavit of support for an alien in the event of the death of the relative who initially filed a petition for permanent resident status for the alien."


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1 posted on 03/16/2002 2:15:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
This is beginning to sound like we are going to have a shooting war along the border. These Mexican soldiers may have some financial interest in smuggling people or drugs and are trying to intimidate Border Patrol officers who are too close to the source of the smuggling.
2 posted on 03/16/2002 3:23:24 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: JohnHuang2
A fence constructed by the Army Corps of Engineers and patrolled by our military would prevent these incidents in the future.

George Bush will pay for sneaking this amnesty bill through, behind the backs of the American people, come election time.

3 posted on 03/16/2002 3:27:57 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: JohnHuang2
Maybe Bill O'Reilly is right. We may need a military presence along the border very soon. Our border patrol is trained and equipped to deal with illegal civilians crossing the border, not soldiers.
4 posted on 03/16/2002 3:35:28 AM PST by germanicus
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To: JohnHuang2
Hey, the First Marine Division is bivouacked just up the road from there--what's the problem, aside from balls, that is?

Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines

5 posted on 03/16/2002 4:06:02 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: FITZ;Mercuria;sarcasm;dennisw;SpookBrat;MissAmericanPie;sneakypete;Warhawk42;Sabertooth;WRhine...
"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy," Jacques told reporters. "Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed."
The Border Patrol's Washington, D.C., headquarters did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.
The March 10 incident signals a growing trend of Mexican military forces crossing into the United States.


6 posted on 03/16/2002 4:14:02 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: gunnyg
Texas needs to start taking its sovereignty seriously. The US government is in violation of the Constitution when it does not protect the borders from invasion.

But, we have a weak president who is not interested in enforcing the laws concerning illegal entry into this country.

7 posted on 03/16/2002 4:15:40 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: JohnHuang2
We don't need no stinkin GPS!
8 posted on 03/16/2002 4:27:06 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: Brownie74
"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy,"

That's what I was thinking. Whew!

"Get your butt back on YOUR side of the border".

9 posted on 03/16/2002 4:31:36 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat
"Get your butt back on YOUR side of the border". And stay there!!
10 posted on 03/16/2002 4:34:10 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
This is bizarre. After the second incident, US troops should have been patrolling also. When it becomes apparent that the military of a neighboring country (one which refuses to make an ally of itself to the US) is making forays across the border, our military needs to be deployed to counter this even while a diplomatic solution is being pursued. When there is more than one incident in which these military personnel fire upon clearly identifiable Border Patrol personnel, deployment of some of our troops should have been automatic.

Isn't it obvious that this administration doesn't take US sovereignty seriously? If Bush can't handle his job, he should step down. There's a VP in place who might be able to grasp the concept of national sovereignty and the neccessity of integrity of our borders. I certainly looks like Bush is more concerned with being pals with Vincente Fox than in defending our borders.

11 posted on 03/16/2002 4:36:44 AM PST by Twodees
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To: germanicus
I think O'Reilly is right on this one too.
12 posted on 03/16/2002 4:37:58 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: Brownie74
From the earlier WND article referenced:

That would be enough to further corrupt the already bad Mexican officials.

13 posted on 03/16/2002 4:39:20 AM PST by flamefront
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To: JohnHuang2
Sounds like a simple navigation error, I wouldn't make too much of it. U.S. Army patrols occassionally stumbled into Czechoslovakia during the Cold War. On at least one occassion they were collected by local lightly armed gendarmes, disarmed, detained and returned. I heard a story about a Pershing Missile battery looking for Grafenwehr training area, showing up at the Czechoslovak border. Fortunately, the local border guard didn't let them in.
14 posted on 03/16/2002 4:42:18 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
This is Mexicos way of sending America their lowest of the lowest.It is no more than America sending all of its welfare people,homeless and prisoners to another country and the Mexican authorities are complicit in it.Maybe when the situation arises where they go to taking over our towns and cities we will awaken but I think by then it will be too late.
15 posted on 03/16/2002 4:43:03 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Twodees
Isn't it obvious that this administration doesn't take US sovereignty seriously?

It is quite obvious. I would lose no sleep if Bush were to step down and I think you are right about Cheney. I consider him to be the "father figure" in the Bush administration.

16 posted on 03/16/2002 4:45:25 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: flamefront
As confirmed by Border Patrol officials, the Juarez cartel, one of Mexico's biggest drug gangs, has indeed placed a bounty of $200,000 on U.S. lawmen.

This was a true article but it got such negative press in Mexico and here that Fox had to go after the cartel and get the bounty removed. Naturally Fox did it after the fact.

17 posted on 03/16/2002 4:49:31 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Sounds like a simple navigation error, I wouldn't make too much of it"

Sounds like one to me, too.

On the other hand, something has got to be done to fix the problem. Like I just said to hubby before reading the replies, Bill O'Reilly has the right idea. (BUMP to the FReepers who said the same thing before me)

18 posted on 03/16/2002 5:06:54 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: CWRWinger
These incidents did not happen in Texas. The border is clearly marked beÝween Texas and Mexico by the RIo Grande. In part of New Mexico, all of Arizona and all of California it is not.
19 posted on 03/16/2002 5:14:09 AM PST by tangerine
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To: Lessismore
Some of these guys are just so clever - they are hard to spot.

CAN YOU FIND THE ILLEGAL?

20 posted on 03/16/2002 5:14:26 AM PST by stlrocket
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