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To: joathome
"And there's not really enough evidence to show that men are any better at it."

Either you didn't read the article, or you missed that the author has already normalized the data against the total single parent household figures:

"Eighty-five percent of prisoners, 78% of high school dropouts, 82% of teenage girls who become pregnant, the majority of drug and alcohol abusers—all come from single-mother-headed households. Less than 1% of any of these categories come from single-father-headed households. This seems to indicate that the problems children encounter are not related to single-parent households, but are related specifically to single-mother-headed households.
The article then goes on to say:
"However, these afflictions were surprisingly uncommon in the 15% of single-parent households headed by men."
Did you get that? Roughly eighty percent of the problem kids are coming from the roughly eighty-five percent of single-parent homes headed by women, less than one percent of the problem kids are coming from the fifteen percent of single-parent homes headed by men.

Conclusion? Men certainly are better at parenting alone than are women. If you don't like it, go dig up some figures of your own.

42 posted on 04/02/2002 2:37:28 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I think you are reading WAY too much into that article. What do you think the statistics would look like if we took away the kids from every inner city mother living on welfare and dropped them in "dad's" lap?

Those statistics don't prove a thing!

God says that kids need a mother and a father. "That" is what we know works.

45 posted on 04/02/2002 6:49:14 PM PST by joathome
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To: Harrison Bergeron
"A study of all state child protective services agencies in the country--by the Children’s Rights Coalition, a child advocacy and research organization in Austin, Texas--found that biological mothers physically abuse their children at twice the rate of biological fathers"

Most parents at home with children are mothers. And fathers still don't provide 50% of the care for children after work. (Not saying there's anything wrong with that. I'm in a "traditional" marriage. I also have about 600% more opportunity to abuse the kids.) Furthermore, a significant percentage of the children in this country probably don't even know who their father is, so it would probably be hard for him to abuse them. The typical father with custody has a job, and was married to the child's mother. That shows stability right there. Of course, that doesn't mean that his ex-wife is unstable. Just that you can't compare "him" to a welfare mother.

The typical single mother--well, she mght be a stable, divorced woman and have a job...or maybe not. Maybe she was never married. She might be on welfare. May very well be a high school dropout. Do these statistics prove that men are better? No....it just proves that the counterpart to the welfare mother, the irresponsible father, isn't seeking custody, and doesn't stick around long enough to abuse the kids. so there are no statistics showing what lousy fathers they might make.

46 posted on 04/02/2002 7:05:28 PM PST by joathome
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To: Harrison Bergeron;cobaltblue;right2parent
Men certainly are better at parenting alone than are women.

To be technically accurate, this should read "Men are less likely to have societally problematic children when parenting alone than are women".

However, the kids would still be missing something by virtue of maternal absence, just as they would be in a single-mom house in the case of paternal absence.Thus the need for a judicially-binding presumption (rebuttable under strict scrutiny standards) for joint residential custody.

The feminist deconstruction of the essentiality of fatherhood is the worst crime of our times.

72 posted on 04/03/2002 4:59:57 PM PST by The Giant Apricots
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