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"He's one of those people who once he grabs onto a fact, he builds a fantasy around that," said Sheriff Warren Rupf. The longtime sheriff who is head of the auxiliary group, the Posse, said fewer than half the 380 Posse members hold concealed weapon permits.

Meanwhile, Contra Costa County currently has a total of 179 concealed- weapons permits outstanding, said Contra Costa County Sheriff's Lt. Dale Varady.

The above is all one really needs to read to get the gist of what is going on here. Is "fewer than half the 380 Posse members" equal to 179? An even better question would be, are there any non-posse members who hold gun permits? Anyone at all?

Quite clearly no one in the legal system wants to look at the facts. But then the law was written this way, so the only real solution is passage of a "shall issue" concealed permit law; this being California, though, the odds are not good.

6 posted on 03/18/2002 4:45:55 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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This is the "discretion" that the anti freedom crowd want. Look at the anti gun groups and how they say to fight "shall issue" concealed carry bills. High on their list is the insistance that "law enforcement" be given "discretion" to issue to whom they want. In other words, cronyism corruption.
8 posted on 03/18/2002 5:04:56 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
"The above is all one really needs to read to get the gist of what is going on here. Is "fewer than half the 380 Posse members" equal to 179? An even better question would be, are there any non-posse members who hold gun permits? Anyone at all?"

Oh, probably some lawyers and judges, I'd imagine, and maybe a few other prominent patrons of the crown.

But this situation pales in comparison to the travesty going on in DC, where even ownership of handguns is prohibited to mere citizens. Yet, I've read that many of our esteemed legislators manage not only to legally own, but carry with impunity.

How do they manage this feat? By getting themselves sworn in as US Marshalls. (I'd presume that would allow them to carry not only in DC, but anywhere they bloody well feel like carrying, probably even including airliners.)

The only fly in the ointment is that I'v heard that there is a Constitutional prohibition against a person holding office in two branches of the federal government at the same time. Since legislators are part of the Legislative branch, and Marshalls are part of the Exective branch, it would appear that there's a bit of a problem, right?

Wrong. I guess there's a place that's above the law, and they seem to be in that place.

Where's Woodward and Bernstein when you need some investigative journalism that's of the non-PC variety?

Oh, sorry. How stupid of me. We can't go rocking the boat, now can we...

24 posted on 03/18/2002 8:16:53 PM PST by Don Joe
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