Suspect Killed During Video Store Robbery

NewsChannel 2 ^ | 19 March 2002 | N/A

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Suspect Killed During Video Store Robbery Posted: 6:34 a.m. EST March 19, 2002

ORANGE CITY, Fla. -- A suspect in the robbery of a video store in Orange City was shot and killed Tuesday night.

It happened at the Blockbuster store along Enterprise Road just before midnight, WESH NewsChannel 2 reported.

The father of one of the employees was inside the store at the time and pulled his weapon during the robbery attempt, officials said.

Police said the father opened fire, killing a 19-year-old suspect. A second suspect was injured in the gunfire.

The dead suspect was also an employee at the store, and the store was robbed about 30 days ago, officials said.

Police reported they believe the shooting was justified.

[johniegrad]

Interesting. Never heard of it. Thanks for the explanation.

[junta]

3 for 3 bump

[Intimidator]

More info: bad guys were two black males.

At the risk of getting flamed, that is usually the case.

[Intimidator]

If it were me, the second suspect would be dead too.

[Intimidator]

Obviously a result of public education

It never fails, that public education rant has to get in every thread.

[Mr Ducklips]

Good post. Film at 8:00.

[facedown]

Thanks for the ping.

The original point-and-click device!

[Khepera]

Don't you like that rant?

[tictoc]

More info: bad guys were two black males.

So?

Plenty of white stick-up artists too. In fact, I used to know one back when I was in high school. 18-year old kid, from a well-to-do family. But he needed extra cash to buy drugs.

[js1138]

Police reported they believe the shooting was justified.

Key word in the story is "Florida". Cops don't take stuff like this to a jury.

[amadeus]

Looking between the lines, this dad initiated a textbook shooting: A double-tap to the perp holding the weapon (the primary threat), and a single tap to the second perp, eliminating a secondary threat. A jury can't possibly make this guy out to be a Dirty Harry type. Helluva shoot!

Sounds like he should hang with the IDPA guys at the local range if he isn't already.

[rdb3]

When do you think that what we are constantly reminded is "the majority of blacks" is going to stand up and denounce their own little, tiny minority of miscreants? Or, do the "majority of blacks" know something the mainstream media is fighting like heck to keep from the majority of the rest of us?

To be totally honest, middle and even lower class black neighborhoods understand this all too well. I've heard it in Cleveland, Atlanta, and now here in Dallas the exact same thing, namely, that the subject of "profiling" and the overall view that black people condone such conduct is entirely our fault as black people. It truly is. Only we allow ourselves to be defined not only by what these so-called "leaders" tell the mainstream media say we are (and this includes tons of whites as well who do not have day to day dealings with black people and all they know is what they see on TV or read in the paper), but also by our criminal element within our community.

Booker T. Washington said years ago that there was too much loitering and such by younger black people. That free time led to criminal acts. It still does. Though we only comprise 12% of the total U.S. population, the minority of the black minority is our scourge, not just to whites, but especially to other blacks!

Trust me, we know this all too well. Now, why we don't take up constructive means to end it is a question I can not answer. Conservative blacks such as myself are jeered severely, even though other left-voting blacks generally agree with that we say on the issue of crime. It's something about being conservative that invalidates all that we say.

Whites who find themselves being the victims of crimes by black perpetrators I empathize with totally. This is because this sort of thing happens daily within the inner-city. I want it all to stop, no matter what the color of the perpetrator. The right words are being said within the black community, but the right actions are not. All I can do is keep it in front of us.

Now, Dr.Deth, you pinged me because of. . .? To provoke?

THINK AGAIN.

[stainlessbanner]

I used to know one back when I was in high school

I know who this story is really about....

[Bullish]

Hey, crack money doesn't grow on trees, ya' know.

[MickMan51]

Nice to hear from someone who knows, and isn't afraid to tell it like it is. Just some words of support from a fellow conservative.

[Justa]

"I've never heard of a perp being charged with murder of another perp because he had a weapon involved in the commission of the crime. Is this for real? How often does something like this happen?"

Quite often actually. They've got the same statute in OK and perps always get charged for their accomplaces' fate. That, plus Home Defense and the 'Sundown law' really put the brakes on public crime. Now it's mostly girlfriend and acquaintance murders and the perps are usually caught soon after the fact.

Armed robbery, burglury, carjacking, etc. are very risky for the perps in states with these laws.

[tictoc]

I know who this story is really about....

LOL... Think what you like!

tictoc <---------- posting live from Death Row

[Justa]

Consider more from the incident. Wince was an employee and likely would have been i.d.-d by other employees. Imo Wince wasn't going there to rob the store. He was going there to kill the other employee.

A likely scenario imo is Wince threatened the son; son calls dad, tells him of some threat; dad arrives and sits in his car in the parking lot. Perps arrive and dad follws them in and saves his son's life.

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An update..Source

Two shot, one killed, as robbery attempt foiled by father of video store employee

By AUTUMN C. GIUSTI (autumn.giusti@news-jrnl.com)
Staff Writer

ORANGE CITY -- Keeping watch while his son closed out the cash register, Robert Shockey parked outside the neighborhood video store armed with a .45-caliber handgun, just as he had done for the past two months.

Until Monday night, Shockey thought he'd never have to pull the trigger.

But at about 11:45 p.m., he fired four shots at a pair of robbers, killing one and injuring the other, after they tried to hold up the Blockbuster Video store on Enterprise Road, a sheriff's spokesman said.

"It's not something I'm real proud of, but it's something I had to do," Shockey said Tuesday.

Reasoning Shockey acted in self-defense and has a concealed weapons permit, Volusia County sheriff's investigators did not arrest him. Instead, they charged the surviving suspect, Darius Bennett, 18, of Deltona, with murder.

"The death would not have occurred if not for the fact these two suspects were engaged in a violent felony," said sheriff's spokesman Gary Davidson.

Meanwhile, investigators identified the dead man as James Wince, 19, of Deltona, a Blockbuster employee. They also suspect Wince and Bennett were involved in the last robbery at the store, on Jan. 24. While Wince was listed as a victim in that robbery, investigators say he may have planned it.

Still groggy from a sleepless night, Shockey recalled the shooting while sitting at his kitchen table Tuesday.

Since the January robbery, he had been going to the store at closing time to protect his son Gabe, 20.

Shockey had just stepped inside the store Monday when the two masked intruders charged through the front doors. They shouted obscenities and threatened to hurt him, Gabe, and another employee, Shockey said.

Wince, armed with a rifle, pointed his weapon directly at Shockey, witnesses told deputies. But when Wince turned the gun away for a moment, Shockey said he saw his chance.

"I pulled my gun and told him to freeze and drop the gun," he said.

Wince instead pointed his gun at Shockey, so Shockey fired two shots, hitting the teen in the chest and neck, Davidson said.

Then, as Wince fell to the ground and dropped his weapon, Bennett made a move for the rifle, Davidson said.

Shockey fired two more shots, hitting Bennett once in the chest.

"I felt like I didn't really have a choice," Shockey said. "I felt they had full intentions of killing us."

Wince was taken by ambulance to Florida Hospital-DeLand, where he was pronounced dead, said EVAC spokesman Mark O'Keefe.

Bennett, who was airlifted to Halifax Medical Center in Daytona Beach, was served with arrest papers in his hospital bed Tuesday, Davidson said. He was listed in serious condition.

In a statement Tuesday, Blockbuster corporate spokesman Randy Hargrove said, "It's disturbing that our employee has been involved with this crime. We're working with police investigators involved with this case."

Wince's father, James Wince Jr., spoke briefly Tuesday about his son's death.

"I would like for the gentleman out there who took my son's life to talk to me and tell me why," he said.

While Shockey said he doesn't feel like a hero "at all," his wife, Gloria, said he did the right thing.

"If it wasn't for him, I might not have a son or husband anymore."

Well, well, well. Wince's pop wants to know why his armed robber of a son was killed. Perhaps armed robbery runs in the family. Good shooting on Mr. Shockey's part. He did what was required of him as a father and a responsible citizen.

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