Killing Gentiles

Joe's mind ^ | This month | Joe Sobran

[Burkeman1]

From a Paleo conservative who defended this frig before I apologize. I am sorry I defended him against charges of anti semitism. IT now seems clear that he is an anti semite.

Do Islamic Arabs in Isreal have more rights and freedom and live a better life than those under Arafat? Yes, of course they do!

Indeed- Palestinians are treated like dirt in the rest of the Arab world. Sobran must know this. Indeed he does. He is a Jew Hater. Not an "anti semite". That is too general. Sobran Hates Jews. He hates Isreal. It was once a professional matter for him but it is now personal. He hates Isreal out of personal motive. What a sad man.

[Cvengr]

It's also a bit revealing that he refers to Christians in the same derogatory manner as he refers to Jews. I just don't see the people carrying suicide bombs from Palestine into Israel as being either Jew or devout Christian. So I really don't wonder too much whether this fellow is friend or foe.

[browardchad]

Many on that blown-apart bus yesterday were Arab Israelis -- I'd certainly call that "brutal treatment of gentiles" -- by other gentiles.

[Burkeman1]

Sobran makes no distinction between the Isreali civlians- men women and children killed by suicide bombers and those palestinians killed in action by the military of Isreal. He is a sick man.

[HockeyPop]

I wouldn't regard myself as a conspiracy theorist but something tells me the Arabs and some others have been paying Sobran and his ilk for this swill.

[mamelukesabre]

I am a white christian male of scandinavian descent that does not go to church. I am 100% pro israel. As far as I am concerned, israel should include suez and lebanon. Any concessions to arafat or the palistinians absolutely disgust me, as does the european favoritism of arafat. Arafat is not legitimate, he should not be talking to any american polititian, ever. No american should recognize him as anything other than a thug and a criminal. The situation is very frustrating to me. Maybe a showdown would fix it, I just don't know.

[Holden Magroin]

Sobran is about as sharp as a marble. I'd have more respect for guys like Sobran and Buchanan if they'd just admit they didn't like Jews.

[Blade]

I agree with every word.

[Catspaw]

Sobran is referring to the Institute for Historical Review (ihr.org), a holocaust "revisionist" (read "denial") site, founded by Willis Carto, an open antisemite, and former owner of Spotlight magazine.

Thank you for finally seeing the light.

[Blade]

Sobran makes no distinction between the Isreali civlians- men women and children killed by suicide bombers and those palestinians killed in action by the military of Isreal.

What non-sense. He wrote or implied or such thing.

[crystalk]

I have no evidence that even one suicide bomber was of Christian extraction, much less a practicing Christian. Certainly Christianity forbids both suicide and murder, and combining both would be a terrible sin-- whoever did it would enter hell immediately.

It is ISLAM that says these terrorists are "martyrs" who will be REWARDED by Allah.

YHWH would never do anything like that.

I think that Muslims are what are called "pehre adam" in Hebrew, that is, just in human form, but soulless, what Paul called "vessels of wrath."

I have never heard a Jew suggest that Christians were in that category, and it does seem that what few Christians remain in the territories controlled by Israel, are usually not hit by IDF fire, though that might be because (a) they did nothing to provoke it; (b) were smart enough to stay indoors and pray; (c) the IDF boys (sharp as razors and fun to talk to) seem to view Christianity as a field for endless jokes about nuns and brothers, etc...but Muslims, well...one bullet for each, waste of ammo, nothing much to talk about though...

[Burkeman1]

Really?

March 12, 2002 Ariel Sharon has finally gone too far. Israel’s thuggish prime minister thought he could crush the Palestinian revolt with a policy of violence, killing Palestinians until they begged for mercy.

Is that Sobran? When did they "beg for mercy"?

Perish the thought that Jews and gentiles should be equal! That would be anti-Semitism

And where in Sobran's mind are Jews and Christians living the life of Reilly in one Arab or Islamic land? Again- there are hundreds of Mosques in Isreal. How many Christian Churches or Synagouges are there in Arab lands? What is your real name?

[Henchman]

Buchanan?? !!! Needs some explanation as to his involvement. Similar justification is needed for another "non church going Christian" stating Lebanon, whose Christians allied with Israel, should be over run. Seems a little distortion and anti Christian sentiment is CREEPing into the discussion. Bigotry, lack of a fair and moral view, and stupidity will not solve the matter and will lead the world down the wrong path.

[Blade]

And where in Sobran's mind are Jews and Christians living the life of Reilly in one Arab or Islamic land? Again- there are hundreds of Mosques in Isreal. How many Christian Churches or Synagouges are there in Arab lands?

Irrelevant. No Islamic state claims to respect democracy, freedom and rights. Israel, on the other hand, claims to be a democracy that respects freedom and rights, yet Jews enjoy rights and legal protections that are not afforded to Arabs and Christians.

What is your real name?

Ask me that again AFTER you post your real name. Fair?

[xm177e2]

Israel is based on the principle that Jews have rights “goyim” don’t have.

No more so than Japan is a country based on the principle that the Japanese have rights "Gaijin" don't have. But who cares?

alleged “anti-Semites” as David Duke and Louis Farrakhan

Sobran has really gone off the deep end this time... they all slip up eventually...

[Blade]

And everyone that criticizes Israel and Jews is an "anti-semite" or a "terrorist," right?

You're proving Sobran right, and you don't even realize it.

[xm177e2]

Thank you for finally seeing the light.

Well let's be fair, I've never seen anything this extreme from Sobran before.

[xm177e2]

everyone that criticizes Israel and Jews is an "anti-semite" or a "terrorist," right?

Maybe you can help me with something. What should Israel do to end the terrorism against it?