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University Of Colorado Sides With Muslims...Keeps Hamas Link On Website!!!!!!!!
AP | 3-22-01 | my favorite headache

Posted on 03/22/2002 3:46:15 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

UNIVERSITY WEBSITE LINK UNDER FIRE (Boulder-AP) -- The University of Colorado has denounced a link to the Hamas charter from a student group's Website. But it stopped short of requiring the Muslim group to remove the link. Hamas is a Palestinian organization that calls for the killing of Jews. A link to Hamas' charter can be reached via a link on the website of the C-U Muslim Students Association. University spokeswoman Bobbi Barrow says the student group has the right to maintain the link under the First Amendment. However, Barrow says the university asked that a disclaimer be added to the site saying links to non-university sites do not represent an endorsement by C-U. Members of the Muslim Students Association say the controversy is unwarranted


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KEYWORDS: colorado; hamas; israel; jews
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I have had a thread on FR about this the last 2 days...FREEP ACTION NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 03/22/2002 3:46:15 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: MEEKNMING
BUMP!!!!!!!!!
2 posted on 03/22/2002 3:47:22 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Holy Smokes....Islam is a religion of peace....cough cough.
3 posted on 03/22/2002 3:48:10 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: My Favorite Headache
Somehow I can't see this institution doing the same thing if a student group of skinheads wanted a KKK link, can you?
4 posted on 03/22/2002 3:49:30 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
"Somehow I can't see this institution doing the same thing if a student group of skinheads wanted a KKK link, can you?"

Yup. And the students may get the trouble they're asking for.

5 posted on 03/22/2002 3:52:39 PM PST by Thud
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To: My Favorite Headache
850KOA AM in Denver just reported on their news update that CU was going to take this link off their website. I checked KOA's website, and they don't have this story posted yet.
6 posted on 03/22/2002 3:53:22 PM PST by Balata
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To: My Favorite Headache
The solution to this seems fairly simple. Find (or form) a student group and link KKK, Neo-Nazi, etc. websites from that student website.
7 posted on 03/22/2002 3:53:33 PM PST by randog
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To: My Favorite Headache
So what's the URL?
And when the KKK linmk is activated on another student web site, we can sit back and watch the spin.
8 posted on 03/22/2002 3:54:59 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: mewzilla
Please forward this to everyone you know...

I am sending this to you to ask for your assistance in demanding action from the president of the University of Colorado.

Several months ago, it was brought to the attention of CU's administration that there was a link to the charter of the terrorist organization Hamas on the University of Colorado web site. This link sits on the page of the Muslim Student Association, an official student group at CU Boulder.

To get to the link, go to the CU homepage:www.colorado.edu, click on the link for student resources, click on the link for student activities, click on the link for student clubs and organizations, and click on the Muslim Students Association (for direct link, click here: http://www.colorado.edu/StudentGroups/msa/) Go to the links section and choose "ININ Worldwide News And Views About Islam And Muslims"

The charter specifically calls for the killing of Jews:

"... the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah's promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim). "

"Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. "

It is completely unacceptable that the University allows this link to remain connected to its website. Can you imagine the promptness of the actions that would have been taken had there been a link containing a sexist joke, or using racist terminology, let alone calling for the killing of another minority group?

President Hoffman was notified in person of this link in January. Despite her assurances that the issue would be resolved, nothing has been done and the link remains.

As students, parents, prospective students, alumni and taxpayers, I urge you to let your voice be heard. Tell Elizabeth Hoffman that you will not attend or support CU if it allows an environment of hatred and anti-semitism to exist on its website and its campus. Demand that she act promptly to remedy this situation.

You can email her at president@cu.edu. Please also forward your email to the Board of Regents, who are elected officials, and let them know that you will speak with your votes! HELP THE STUDENTS OF CU KEEP THEIR ENVIRONMENT FREE FROM BIGOTRY AND HATRED!

REGENTS:
1997-2002 At Large
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Ms. Maureen Ediger, Chair
541 Fox Street
Denver, CO 80204
720-932-1954 (fax720-932-1956) e-mail:
maureenediger@aol.com

1999-2004
1993-1998
District 1
D

Ms. Susan C. Kirk
Holme Roberts & Owen LLC
1700 Lincoln, Suite 4100
Denver, CO 80203
303-866-0687 (fax 303-832-4973) e-mail
kirk@stripe.colorado.edu

1999-2004
District 4
R Mr. Tom Lucero
P.O. Box 921
Johnstown, CO 80534
970-217-1344 (fax 970-587-0920) e-mail tommyjclay@aol.com
1999-2004
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Mr. Jim Martin
801 Circle Drive
Boulder, CO 80302
303-499-4999 (fax 303-447-8796) e-mail
martinja@stripe.colorado.edu

1997-2002
1991-1996
1985-1990
District 6
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Mr. Norwood L. Robb
1519 East Maplewood Court
Centennial, CO 80121
303-797-6748 (fax 303-797-1036) e-mail
robbn@spot.colorado.edu

2001-2006
1995-2000
District 5
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Mr. Jerry G. Rutledge, Vice Chair
3761 Blue Merion Court
Colorado Springs, CO 80906
719-527-8868 (fax 719-632-7694) e-mail
jerryrutledge@adelphia.net

2001-2006
District 3
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Ms. Gail Schwartz
1575 Silver King Drive
Aspen, CO 81611
970-925-3013 (fax 970-544-4632) e-mail
schwartg@spot.colorado.edu

1997-2002
1991-1996
District 2
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Dr. Robert E. Sievers

Global Change and Environmental Quality Program
UCB Campus Box 214
Boulder, CO 80309
303-492-7943 (fax 303-492-1414) e-mail
Regent.Sievers@Colorado.edu

2001-2006
1995-2000
At Large
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Dr. Peter Steinhauer (D.D.S.)
7492 Spring Drive
Boulder, CO 80303
303-499-1278 (fax 303-543-2351) e-mail
steinhau@stripe.colorado.edu

Devorah Friedman
Director
Hillel at The University of Colorado, Boulder
2795 Colorado Ave.
Boulder, CO 80302
www.hillelcolorado.org
303-442-6571

9 posted on 03/22/2002 3:58:16 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Balata
I read that on the other post and then this was reported in the last hour from AP. What gives??? This is straight from AP/Boulder 1 hr old.
10 posted on 03/22/2002 3:59:50 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Good Grief! My daughter was accepted at Colorado and we are going to take a look around during the Oregon spring break next week. I had some vague hope that Colorado might be marginally better than the U Of Oregon with their anarchists. I guess all Universities are strange. I always thought that advocating murder was a no no. Show how out of date I am. Do they also have a memorial celebrating Sendero Luminoso or Che?
11 posted on 03/22/2002 4:04:20 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: randog
Good idea.

"The solution to this seems fairly simple. Find (or form) a student group and link KKK, Neo-Nazi, etc. websites from that student website."

12 posted on 03/22/2002 4:04:25 PM PST by Thud
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To: My Favorite Headache
They have a right under the 1st ammendment? Well, why do they shout down David Horowitz when he comes on campus? Oh...THAT'S right, it's only free speech if they AGREE with it.
13 posted on 03/22/2002 4:05:33 PM PST by Puppage
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To: JimSEA
I am friends with some girls that are part of a college campus jewish alliance who tipped me off a few days ago about the link situation...she told me that there is much hatred for jews there and this rift between this muslim union is getting more sympathy because of the political correctness on campus about muslims being profiled and looked down at. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Oddly enough it was a friend from University Of South Florida who told me that some of the same problems they are facing on her own campus with the muslim love and jew hating are going on at C-U.

14 posted on 03/22/2002 4:08:02 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Do you have a link to your A/P article?.......
15 posted on 03/22/2002 4:08:51 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Puppage
Horowitz bump...Jihad In America should be shown nightly on the History,Discovery, and Animal Planet networks. Catch my drift?
16 posted on 03/22/2002 4:09:16 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: MeeknMing
You betcha....

http://www.kjct8.com/

17 posted on 03/22/2002 4:11:24 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
On a related issue, does anyone know if this URL means The University of California at San Diego is hosting the site?

http://burn.ucsd.edu/~ats/mrta.htm

MRTA is the Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement in Peru. They are a terrorist organization and probably connected to the bombing in Lima this week.

How does hosting work? Does this mean someone at the University is supporting MRTA? Or can anyone put up a web site on their server?

18 posted on 03/22/2002 4:11:33 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: My Favorite Headache
Univ of Colorado is the same school that refused to treat the defacing of the Hillel chapter's Israeli flag (with Arabic slogans) as a hate crime (UC decided that it wasn't a "religious" issue - notwithstanding that it was the Hillel House that was vandalized - and evidently doesn't consider "national origin" to be a hate crimes category).
19 posted on 03/22/2002 4:12:06 PM PST by DonQ
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To: MeeknMing
LATEST FROM AP
20 posted on 03/22/2002 4:12:43 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Loud & clear! I'm with you.
21 posted on 03/22/2002 4:13:44 PM PST by Puppage
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thanks for the info. It amazes me how the current crop of radical is so attracted by the worst of the worst.
22 posted on 03/22/2002 4:14:06 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: LarryLied
Larry by the way...check this out...FYI:

--- Ian Harvey > wrote:

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> > Our most immediate and compelling reason to be in > NAPLES at the INTERSECTION of U.S. 41 and GOLDEN > GATE PARKWAY is to OPPOSE the POLICIES OF OUR > GOVERNMENT THAT THREATEN TO STARVE TO DEATH MILLIONS > of people in Afghanistan, 70% of whom are women and > children. WE DEMAND AN END TO BOMBING SO FOOD > CONVOYS CAN GET THROUGH. WE DEMAND AN END TO BOMBING > WHICH HAS KILLED 4,000 CIVILIANS SO FAR .

> > WE ALSO OPPOSE U.S. PLANS TO EXTEND THIS WAR TO the > PHILIPPINES, or INDONESIA, or any other country. > SUICIDE BOMBING IS TERRORISM. DROPPING BOMBS IS ALSO > TERRORISM, AND SO IS STARVATION.

> > WE HAVE TO HOLD OUR GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE.

> > WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY UNTIRINGLY: “NOT IN OUR > NAME!”

> > WE ARE AGAINST THE EMBARGO OF IRAQ, which continues > to KILL thousands of Iraqi CHILDREN. NOT IN OUR > NAME!

> > > > WE DO NOT WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE > ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ITS BRUTAL TREATMENT OF > PALESTINIANS. > THE U.S. AND ALL OTHER NATIONS MUST FOLLOW > INTERNATIONAL LAW.

> > > > WE ARE AGAINST ALL INROADS ON OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES, > like the RACIAL PROFILING INCREASING ALL OVER THE > COUNTRY, INCLUDING COLLIER COUNTY, military > tribunals and secret detentions, used to victimize > immigrants first and foremost but also anyone who > disagrees with U.S. policy here and abroad. THE > FIRST AMENDMENT GUARANTEES the FREEDOM to EXPRESS > OUR OPPOSITION.

> > WE SAY "NO!" to TAXPAYER BAIL-OUTS of BILLIONS PAID > TO HUGE CORPORATIONS in the name of "economic > stimulus" while laid-off workers get nothing.

> > Check out independent, alternative media like > ZMAG.ORG, ALTERNET.ORG, and COMMONDREAMS.ORG, to > name only a few, instead of relying on media 100% > behind WAR as the ONLY OPTION.

> Anyone in need of more info, please contact > mmediamaniac@y... </group/antiwarbroward/post?protectID=02923219215008203107209806602614724113 6158196219183121152006048067>

23 posted on 03/22/2002 4:15:28 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
I couldn't find any bomb making or suicide assault classes on this site. Maybe I glanced through it too quickly.
24 posted on 03/22/2002 4:16:35 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Larrylied;summer;wallace212
Ian Harvey Freep? Be there....
25 posted on 03/22/2002 4:16:54 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: LarryLied
Does this mean someone at the University is supporting MRTA?

Very probably. Someone at the University set it up, no? I don't think the University lets just anyone wander in on their servers and plaster them with sites.

No surprise in this at all. A whole spectrum of terrorist groups are going live these days, from Germany to South America. They may have different baseline ideology, but they're aligning with the muslims. if you go on a tour of American Unis, you'll probably find everything from neonazi outfits to marxists to islamics. Happy hunting ;).

26 posted on 03/22/2002 4:21:03 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: rwfromkansas
"Islam is a Religion of Peace, Cough, Cough"

And there are none more peaceful than the dead.

27 posted on 03/22/2002 4:22:20 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: My Favorite Headache
I will monitor KOA's website and if they put it up I'll post it and link it. I guess it wouldn't be the first time the media got their facts wrong. Oh well, here's hopeing they know something AP doesn't.
28 posted on 03/22/2002 4:23:15 PM PST by Balata
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To: My Favorite Headache
Check out the national Muslim Student's Association http://www.msa-natl.org/

In their section on Charities (http://www.msa-natl.org/resources/Relief_Orgs.html), they list fronts for Hamas (Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF))

Also check out their response to our war in Afghanistan, http://www.msa-natl.org/911/attacks.htm .

At Columbia, the MSA is one of the major co-ordinating groups for the anti-war movement.

29 posted on 03/22/2002 4:23:28 PM PST by rmlew
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thanks! I hope the other guys info is correct and they've decided to dump it.
I'll see what I can find out from other links/sources, ok?........
30 posted on 03/22/2002 4:23:50 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Balata; My Favorite Headache
Please let me know also? Thanks!
31 posted on 03/22/2002 4:26:20 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Ok...but this was fresh off the wire at the time...still there. I believe one statement made from a University on this subject on a Friday is the only one we will hear. They will not change their minds 2 times in one day. No way. The AP deal is the real thing IMHO.
32 posted on 03/22/2002 4:26:58 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: rmlew;miamifreepress
speechless.....but not terribly shocked...bump
33 posted on 03/22/2002 4:27:47 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Hamas has been deemed a terrorist group by the US govt. I doubt the authorities would approve of this.
34 posted on 03/22/2002 4:35:18 PM PST by veronica
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To: My Favorite Headache

35 posted on 03/22/2002 4:39:17 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: My Favorite Headache
I poked around and try as I might never did find the Hamas link.
Maybe they decided not to push it.
It's impossible to justify and/or defend the "Palestinian" charter.

It's almost as cartoonish and simple-minded as the Koran.

36 posted on 03/22/2002 4:44:58 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: My Favorite Headache
Isn't HAMAS listed as a terrorist organization by the Government of the United States of America? Seems to me that federal charges are in order.
37 posted on 03/22/2002 4:49:02 PM PST by montag813
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To: mewzilla
Somehow I can't see this institution doing the same thing if a student group of skinheads wanted a KKK link, can you?

You are correct about that. When I lived in Colorado, the people I worked with were the most PC liberal pack of buttheads I have ever known--state employees!!

38 posted on 03/22/2002 4:50:03 PM PST by scholar
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Ozzie Arafat"

Who is this scumbag cartoonist who has a likeness of the great, Christian, Ozzie Ozborne portrayed as the mongrel dog Arafat?

39 posted on 03/22/2002 4:51:54 PM PST by montag813
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To: My Favorite Headache; ALL
The AP deal is the real thing IMHO.

I would not bet against that. I think your post is correct and never intended to post any inference otherwise. Please understand that, ok? Seems my inability to post a concise and clear post sometimes causes my communications to be misconstrued. My apologies for that.......
40 posted on 03/22/2002 5:00:09 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Cachelot
Thanks...a Whois search on
http://burn.ucsd.edu/~ats/mrta.htm
comes up blank (for me at least). This frosts me. If terrorists want to put up websites, let them pay for it, not taxpayers.
41 posted on 03/22/2002 5:02:05 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Thanks...a Whois search on

You won't get it on a whois. Whois gets you only the server and its owner, and this is a user acct. Try knocking the door of user ~ats.

42 posted on 03/22/2002 5:10:08 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied
Had a look. The owner is "Arm the Spirit" - just go one level up on the url. That was something of an eye-popper. And, not surprisingly, they're linked to palestinian terror.

They're thanking the "comrades at BURN" for providing the site. BURN seems to be http://tierra.ucsd.edu.

43 posted on 03/22/2002 5:20:04 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied
ucsd.edu is hosting this garbage. It is not a "link".
Freep UCSD and freep them now!!!
44 posted on 03/22/2002 5:33:34 PM PST by soycd
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The University of Colorado is only one sample point. Many colleges have active Muslim student groups complete with their own websites.

One example is the Georgia Tech Muslim Student Association website. Click on "Truth" and follow the links for an eye-opener.

45 posted on 03/22/2002 5:37:38 PM PST by delphifalcon
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To: JimSEA
Take a look at Hillsdale College. No PC rubbish, historical revisionism, or other liberal nonsense there.
46 posted on 03/22/2002 5:37:54 PM PST by Tory-Oxonian
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To: mewzilla
Are you kidding - what if they wanted a BAPTIST link, for crying out loud? No way, Jose.
47 posted on 03/22/2002 5:41:07 PM PST by lodwick
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thanks for the Regents e-mail list. I'm a CU grad. I just wrote about 6 of them a blistering letter. Included withdrawal of any financial support.....I'm pizzed.
48 posted on 03/22/2002 5:45:09 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: My Favorite Headache
At least the Muslim student association has decloaked.
49 posted on 03/22/2002 5:52:42 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Cachelot;soycd
Had a look. The owner is "Arm the Spirit" - just go one level up on the url. That was something of an eye-popper. And, not surprisingly, they're linked to palestinian terror.

ucsd.edu is hosting this garbage. It is not a "link". Freep UCSD and freep them now!!!

Excellent. Possibly tied to the car bombing in Peru and Palestinian terror. More groups they are connected to are here:

http://burn.ucsd.edu/resource.htm

They claim to be not affialated with the University of California at San Diego but from what you say, taxpayers are funding this site at the university.

Anyone care to do a free standing "Freeper Call to Action" on this? Perhaps the media will pick up on it. Seems a natural for O'Reilly.

Is this the university where a kid who overheard Arabs laughing about 9/11 got into trouble with the school administration? It was somewhere in Southern California.

50 posted on 03/22/2002 5:52:45 PM PST by LarryLied
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