[ValerieUSA]

I did not "whine" for the poor woman. I have compassion for her - her children were brutally murdered. I will make NO excuse for the murderer. So shoot me. I made no excuses for Andrea Yates, either.

[pillars]

Please don't misunderstand me. I have compassion for anyone who would have to suffer such a terrible loss. It is more than I can fathom. But I will NOT make the man out to be some terrible brute, and heap all sympathy on her, without all of the facts. We cannot ignor the truth of how many men are reaching the breaking point by heartless, vindictive women, who set out to destroy their exes, with the government condoning her actions. Two separate issues: 1)sorrow for the loss of the children, and for their mother's grief. 2)sorrow for the man and the agony he must have endured to get to this point. Now, agruably, he may have just been a nut case. It happens. I just want to know the facts.