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To: davidjquackenbush
I have focused on this one claim -- that Lincoln revealed his single-minded devotion to "the corrupt Whig economic agenda" in these speeches -- because here it is directly clear that DiLorenzo is either lying or incompetent on a piece of evidence he himself has offered as central to his case.

It is good to have a well-defined target. I'd like to read the speeches in question and then respond to your contention. Are they in one place on the web?

Oh, and is this a direct quote: "Lincoln revealed his single-minded devotion to the corrupt Whig economic agenda"....

Or is this more like it: "In virtually every one of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln made it a point to champion this corrupt economic agenda."

Obviously "revealed his single-minded devotion to the corrupt Whig economic agenda" is very much NOT the same thing as: "made it a point to champion this corrupt economic agenda" don't you agree?

Thanks.

155 posted on 03/28/2002 8:13:26 AM PST by one2many
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To: one2many
Quackenbush has quoted correctly, you have misplaced his quotation marks, and your post is really a quibble.

Sorry to have to speak so plainly.

Richard F.

162 posted on 03/28/2002 10:15:35 AM PST by rdf
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To: one2many
It is good to have a well-defined target. I'd like to read the speeches in question and then respond to your contention. Are they in one place on the web?

Every word known to have been spoken or written by Lincoln before he became president is available at http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/aboutinfo.html

Oh, and is this a direct quote: "Lincoln revealed his single-minded devotion to the corrupt Whig economic agenda"....

DiLorenzo, from page 54 of the book: "Lincoln was always a Whig, and was almost single-mindedly devoted to the Whig agenda-protectionism, government control of the money supply through a nationalized banking system, and government subsidies for railroad, shipping and canal-building businesses ("internal improvements").

Or is this more like it: "In virtually every one of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln made it a point to champion this corrupt economic agenda."

Obviously "revealed his single-minded devotion to the corrupt Whig economic agenda" is very much NOT the same thing as: "made it a point to champion this corrupt economic agenda" don't you agree?

Well, yes, these two completely unsubstantiated and false statements are different. One is a false instance supporting the false general claim.

164 posted on 03/28/2002 10:20:37 AM PST by davidjquackenbush
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