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To: Deadeye Division
I'm an Ann Coulter fan, and I agree with her substantive positions almost all the time, but I don't think she's doing herself or the cause of freedom any good by slathering generic "liberals" with vitriol. A lot of good and decent people still style themselves as liberals. If we want to have a shot at opening their minds, we should refrain from demonizing them, except in those specific and blatant cases where particular evildoers can be identified and held up for objective condemnation.

Conservatism ought to be above this sort of thing anyway. Aren't we supposd to be the better-behaved bunch?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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10 posted on 03/28/2002 7:24:46 AM PST by fporretto
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To: fporretto
It would be impossible for Coulter to sort out the liberals into the good and decent people and the anti american crowd. If Ted Kennedy would tell Walter Cronkite he is all wet, then Ted could be good and decent for the day. They need to do it for themself.
14 posted on 03/28/2002 7:35:19 AM PST by JIM O
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To: fporretto
We tried that and wound up with X42 for 8 years.
19 posted on 03/28/2002 7:42:50 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: fporretto
I don't think she's doing herself or the cause of freedom any good by slathering generic "liberals" with vitriol. A lot of good and decent people still style themselves as liberals.

The vast majority of liberals are very well meaning, in their own way. The essence of the typical liberal's self image is that they are "nice". To be considered "not nice" is quite an insult.

If you spend any time reading liberal literature, you will find commentary about conservatives always manages to say or imply that conservatives are "not nice". Until recently, conservatives were too polite to respond in kind, and liberals took this to be proof of their self evident "niceness".

If we want to have a shot at opening their minds, we should refrain from demonizing them, except in those specific and blatant cases where particular evildoers can be identified and held up for objective condemnation.

For all too long, conservatives have refrained from challenging the liberal self image of "nice". Although part of the liberal self-image is that they are "smart", liberals are not famous for logical thought. When challenged with reason, they retreat to their "feelings". For many of them, challenging their "feelings" may be the only way to elicite a self-examination that mere logic apparently cannot.

Ann Coulter is deliberately calling the liberals what they actually are: "not nice". She is putting them on notice that the most cherished part of their self-image, "niceness", cannot be taken for granted. It is time they knew.

29 posted on 03/28/2002 7:55:27 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: fporretto
And you my friend, are naive. After eight years of Bill Clinton getting caught in lie after lie after lie, scandel after scamdel, if they are still a liberal then there is never a chance to change their minds. By behaving nicely is how we got into the situation we are in today. You do not fight with two sets of rules. You fight by the rules set forth by your enemies.
32 posted on 03/28/2002 8:11:14 AM PST by 7thson
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To: fporretto
"Conservatism ought to be above this sort of thing anyway. Aren't we supposd to be the better-behaved bunch?"

I am sick and tired ... no, I'm FINISHED, treating Liberal/Socialist/Marxist/Commie-lovin', America-Hating fools with anything but outright contempt.

If they refuse to join in the struggle to preserve our U.S.Constitution & Bill of Rights, IMO, they barely deserve to breathe on our soil.

They really should leave NOW, and find somewhere else on earth to create their Brave New World.

34 posted on 03/28/2002 8:21:43 AM PST by CIBvet
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To: fporretto
You cannot be a decent person and a leftist. We have to paint these monsters for what they are.
38 posted on 03/28/2002 9:05:08 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: fporretto
A lot of good and decent people still style themselves as liberals. If we want to have a shot at opening their minds, we should refrain from demonizing them

I don't agree. Liberalism is evil. It is neo-puritian, gnostic and totalitarian. It is opposed to the Anglo-America tradition of liberty and equality under law. About time sect members are called on exactly what they are advocating. Make being a liberal as socially unacceptable as being a Klansman or Nazi (with whom they share much). The way to defeat tyranny is not to coddle it but hit it head on.

47 posted on 03/28/2002 8:55:09 PM PST by LarryLied
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