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When Government Breaks The Law
03/29/02 | AntiDemoCommie

Posted on 03/28/2002 10:00:21 PM PST by antidemocommie

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To: Tuor; OrthodoxPresbyterian
He seems to support making the US a theocracy

Nope. You were closer with majoritarian as long as the majority agrees with him.

21 posted on 03/28/2002 11:25:45 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
Yes, I realized that as I wrote it. But I left in the earlier part because there are also people who wouldn't mind seeing that.

The Bill of Rights, as well as certain portions of the Constitution were written *specifically* to prevent the Majority from bringing tyranny. However, it was understood that over time, the majority would eventually get its way. The Founding Fathers, knowing this, admitted they were taking a risk by *trusting* the People be able to handle wisely the power the Constitution made manifest (as the People have always had it.)

I leave it to the reader to decide how well we've managed the power made manifest by the Constitution.

Tuor

22 posted on 03/28/2002 11:34:06 PM PST by Tuor
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To: Cultural Jihad
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." - Che Guevara I never thought I'd live to see the day I'd agree with anything Che Guevara had to say.
23 posted on 03/28/2002 11:57:06 PM PST by brat
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To: brat; Cultural Jihad
I believe Claire Wolfe is cited as the originator of that quote.
Another CJ "attempt" at humor.
24 posted on 03/29/2002 1:51:34 AM PST by philman_36
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To: brat; Cultural Jihad
Here are some of Ernesto's quotes.
Doesn't sound like he's a happy camper.
25 posted on 03/29/2002 2:02:01 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Tuor
I think, alas, I have figured Cultural Jihad out

He is actually _Jim's evil twin.

Regards

J.R.

26 posted on 03/29/2002 2:10:05 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: Cultural Jihad
Try committing libel, or yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater . . .

That's his point, idjit. The Constitution says you can, the Supreme Court says you cannot. That's his question: Is this a nation of laws or of men? And if not laws, what is to be done? Thanks for explicitly coming down on the side of a government of men, not of laws.

I'm sure you would want the SCOTUS to declare his asking the question unconstitutional.

27 posted on 03/29/2002 3:03:38 AM PST by jammer
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To: NMC EXP
lol. Except, can we change "evil twin" to "more evil twin?"
28 posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 AM PST by jammer
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To: Cultural Jihad
After 9-11, people are rightfully wary of ideologues with these really weird and murderous ideas floating around in their heads.

Sure. And, if 9-11 hadn't happened, you would say, "After OKC . . .". And you would be correct; however, if you were truly honest, you would say, "After Waco . . .".

29 posted on 03/29/2002 3:11:57 AM PST by jammer
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To: jammer
I stand corrected -- thanks.

J.R.

30 posted on 03/29/2002 3:30:47 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: Cultural Jihad
When the system comes crashing down you will be the first to wonder aloud "What happened?"
31 posted on 03/29/2002 3:34:48 AM PST by copycat
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To: antidemocommie
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

BS

32 posted on 03/29/2002 3:45:08 AM PST by Pistias
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To: Cultural Jihad
. But no one has a right to commit murder or insurrection against a lawful government.

ONe does have a right to commit insurrection against a lawful government, if that government does not meet the desires of the insurrectionist, however, I recommend to that person that he try to incorporate a few million of his closest friends. The solitary insurrectionist is doomed to failure.

On the flip side, since you cowardly chose "lawful" govt, (not the topic of this thread), when one is confronted by unlawful government, one has a moral DUTY to throw off such government, and to disobey unlawful statutes.

Laws which protect society or the "collective", such as yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre, are inconsistent with the American system. Rather, one who yells "Fire" should subsequently be punished for any damage or injury caused by him, rather than society attempting to outlaw said activity before the fact.

That approach is inconsistent with indivdual liberty.

It is clear that you value the needs of society above the needs of the individual. As such, you are both a statist and a socialist.

Your cultural Jihad leads to a society of slaves at the mercy of Federal power.

33 posted on 03/29/2002 3:46:59 AM PST by copycat
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To: antidemocommie
bump
34 posted on 03/29/2002 3:51:52 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: A.J.Armitage
Nope. You were closer with majoritarian as long as the majority agrees with him. 21 posted on 3/29/02 12:25 AM Pacific by A.J.Armitage

And getting the majority to agree with him -- why, that's just a simple matter of applying prison sentences and death penalties to enough of the Non-Jihadists to reduce the sample size down to a comfortably Jihadist majority. ;-)

35 posted on 03/29/2002 7:47:20 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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