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California Assembly Bill 2580 - Dangerous Weapons
California Legislative Digest ^ | 21 February 2002 | The "Honorable" Joe Simitian, Assembly Member, California

Posted on 03/29/2002 2:00:24 PM PST by 45Auto

AB 2580, as introduced, Simitian.

Dangerous weapons.

Existing law generally regulates various dangerous weapons, including short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machine guns, assault weapons, and destructive devices. This bill would require, in regard to those devices, that the Department of Justice would, for every person, firm, or corporation to whom a permit is issued relating to the device, annually conduct an inspection for security and safe storage purposes, and to reconcile the inventories of the devices. The bill would also provide that for a person, firm, or corporation with an inventory of fewer than 5 devices that require any Department of Justice permit, the department would conduct an inspection for security and safe storage purposes, and to reconcile inventories, once every 5 years, or more frequently if determined by the department.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: awregistry; banglist; calawban; dojhomesearches
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This bill epitomizes just how far down the scale toward tyranny the California legislature has slid. The demonRAT party is drunk on its own power; it relishes the fact that there is no opposition to its criminal pursuits. This bill also demonstrates to those who say "It can't happen here" just how wrong they are and just how perverted the demoRATS are. It also shows that the demonRAT party cares nothing for the idea of Constitutional constraint on the actions of the elected public serpents. This bill not only disregards the 2nd, but also the 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments to the Constitution of the US. Its as if California had seceeded from the union and now is an independent nation, free to do as it wishes - the citizens be damned.
1 posted on 03/29/2002 2:00:24 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
2 posted on 03/29/2002 2:03:01 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: 45Auto
So now those honest and stupid citizens (including a lot of LEO's) who registered their AR's, etc. under the terms of the very unconstitutional Roberti-Roos AW ban, now must allow agents of the Cal DOJ access to their homes so that the damn government can examine their gun collection. This piece of trash (both the bill and its author) says, in effect, that those registered weapons are really THE PROPERTY OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. So, naturally,the state would like to see how well cared-for its property is. I have a few choice words for Assembly dufus Simitian - but decorum prevents me from spewing them forth in this forum.
3 posted on 03/29/2002 2:06:20 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
As usual, Kalifornia is insane. We should change the flag to reflect 49 stars.
4 posted on 03/29/2002 2:06:21 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: 45Auto,Joe Brower,PatrioticAmerican,Blam,pocat,Squantos,harpseal,Hail Caesar
The "assault weapons" this bill would call for the "inspection" of are the standard semi auto AR-15s etc that Kali mandated be registered last year.

1st year: registration.

2nd year: "inspection".

3rd year: confiscation???

BLOAT, cache, and take names!

5 posted on 03/29/2002 2:08:21 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 45Auto
A name to remember: Joe Simitian.
6 posted on 03/29/2002 2:09:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 45Auto
I suppose that this would be out of the question in California...

http://www.gatlingguns.com

7 posted on 03/29/2002 2:10:31 PM PST by Own Drummer
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To: chance33_98
As usual, Kalifornia is insane

The problem is that the DNC and the leadership of the demonRAT party wants to impose this madness on the entire US, and California is merely the testing ground.

8 posted on 03/29/2002 2:13:27 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
California is merely the testing ground

A million scoped deer rifles may agree some day.

10 posted on 03/29/2002 2:28:15 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 45Auto
Related thread: KALI PROPOSES NICKEL A ROUND BULLET TAX.
11 posted on 03/29/2002 2:41:21 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 45Auto
I bet they will want to charge to do the inspection so as to raise revenues to fund other State activities.
12 posted on 03/29/2002 2:47:34 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: chance33_98
As usual, Kalifornia is insane. We should change the flag to reflect 49 stars.

Let's keep it at 50 by exchanging California for Saudia Arabia.

13 posted on 03/29/2002 2:49:09 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: chance33_98
As usual, Kalifornia is insane. We should change the flag to reflect 49 stars.

You are right on with that comment. We ought to start a grass roots fire with that very idea and nationalize the election of all California politicians. It would be interesting to watch them lose when done.

The 1994 elections were nationalized as far as congress went. It was a landslide. And this very same thing can and should be done for the state of California. Banners and signs saying "49 Stars, California Legislators no longer stand for the US Constitution" is a very powerful message. Packed right and delivered keenly it would have an impact.

As Kalifornia slides so slides the nation. I live in the Police State of New York. We need it here as well as does Maryland and Massachusetts.

14 posted on 03/29/2002 2:55:38 PM PST by ICE-FLYER
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How long before all the real Americans move out of California, and all that's left are the illegal aliens receiving free benefits paid for by...Hey, wait, who's gonna pay for the benefits?
15 posted on 03/29/2002 2:58:19 PM PST by copycat
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To: 45Auto
I wonder if they'll start with an inventory of the LAPD armory.
16 posted on 03/29/2002 3:02:02 PM PST by Redcloak
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copycat said: "How long before all the real Americans move out of California, and all that's left are the illegal aliens receiving free benefits paid for by...Hey, wait, who's gonna pay for the benefits?"

I qualify for early retirement in 13 months. The search begins in earnest then. Kalifornistan doesn't need engineers today. In five years, there will be a shortage. In ten, the dominance of American technology will begin a serious slide due to the retirements of the baby boom.

We will be living in interesting times.

17 posted on 03/29/2002 3:34:00 PM PST by William Tell
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I wonder if they'll start with an inventory of the LAPD armory

Interesting point. Law enforcement is NOT exempt from the rotten, unconstitutional Roberti-Roos law - the one that required the registration. However, I think it only applies to guns personally owned by cops. Its interesting how this jackass assemblything, Joe The Monkey Simian, assumes these guns already belong to the State. Note his words: "...inspections to Reconcile Inventories". There is NO provision in the law for the passing on of these guns to heirs - when the current "gun caretaker" dies, these guns revert to STATE OWNERSHIP - which is theft in my mind. So much of the Constitution has been crapped on with this law that it boggles the mind. I don't whether to laugh or cry.

18 posted on 03/29/2002 3:34:42 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Travis McGee, 45Auto
Thanks for the flag, Travis.

45Auto's remarks about how the Demos are just drunk on power and pulling every fast one they can think of is very apt.

Yup, this was very easy to see coming. As I did to everyone I knew when the 1989 Roberti-Roos "ban" came, I recommended the same course of action when the 1998 AW "ban" hit us: Don't register a damn thing. Yes, we're law-abiding, and being such, it's a damn shame that we are now forced to face a decision between what is legal and what is moral. Deal with it.

A lot of people I knew and/or went shooting with took this advice; they, too, could see the writing on the wall. Now here it is.


19 posted on 03/29/2002 4:08:03 PM PST by Joe Brower
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To: 45Auto
They're going to have to no-knock everybody on the list.

How will they be able to find all your gun hiding places in the house without a warrant?

The whole state of California will be a big giant Ruby Ridge.

BTTT

20 posted on 03/29/2002 4:14:58 PM PST by hattend
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