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Let the water flow - Klamath Falls
Herald and News ^ | 3/29/02 | LEE JUILLERAT

Posted on 03/29/2002 7:51:58 PM PST by nunya bidness

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To: forester
You guys and your neighbors are the new targets for Rural Cleansing by the enviral Nazis as they try to control every drop of water that flows down stream in your area.
61 posted on 03/30/2002 9:51:22 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Good luck on Monday and don't hurt those big trout. Catch them and bring them in quick and shake that hook out while they are still in the water.

With my new spey rod with a big fish, I can turn it sideways when they are up close and do a little roll cast with some of my line in and out of my rod towards the fish.

This gives him slack, and most shake the hook out and go away with being touched by me. My son just shakes his head and leaves me. He has to get a picture of every big trout he catches. After the first 50, they all look alike.

62 posted on 03/30/2002 9:57:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
You guys and your neighbors are the new targets for Rural Cleansing by the enviral Nazis as they try to control every drop of water that flows down stream in your area.

The scary part is that the State Dept. of Water Resources are the ones pushing hardest for this.

63 posted on 03/30/2002 10:04:58 PM PST by forester
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To: forester
You posted, The scary part is that the State Dept. of Water Resources are the ones pushing hardest for this.

Control the flows of water in California, and you control the state, the people, the resources, the businesses and the politics.

The fact that Davis had this board handle his power crisis was very scary to me.

So who are these people, where do they come from, and are they all card carrying Rats and enviralists?

64 posted on 03/30/2002 10:16:55 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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So who are these people, where do they come from, and are they all card carrying Rats and enviralists?

The first guy that came up here was from the Red Bluff office. He told a room full of landowners that the preliminary opinion from Sacramento was that if the coho salmon was listed under the State ESA, then the fish would get the water first, and what was left over would go to the water rights holders. Keep in mind, water rights on both the Shasta and Scott rivers are fully adjudicated by the County Superior Court. He explained that the California Department of Fish and Game would set "minumum flow standards" for the fish, and that the DWR would enforce those standards.

The next guy came up a month later and wanted to put a flow gauge in the river...above the ag diversions. Come to find out, there is already a gauge below the ag lands, thus the bureaucrats could do simple math and say, "well, there's more coming into the valley then going out so the farmers and ranchers must be to blame for the river going dry." Many were opposed to this, and I led the resistance. The problem that the State had was that the enire stretch of river thru the valley is in private ownership. Without a willing landowner, they could not put in the gauge. One day I happened to walk into a meeting between the landowner, the DWR and the USGS. I explained to the landowner the simple math concept, and that this would open the valley up to political manipulation of the data. The landowner began resisting the DWR employee's arguements, to which the regulator stated: "It doesn't matter if you give us permission or not, we will use the County highway bridge site right-of-way if you don't give us permission." This bridge was on the landowner's property, and what the regulator didn't know was that the County only had a right-of-way at the bridge...they did not actually own the land under the bridge. I then told the regulator that what he was doing was essentially extortion. At this point, the Fed (USGS) guy walked out and told me privately that "this is not how the USGS operates, we will back out of the project if the State over-rides landowner objections."

In subsequent meetings, I told the public that the State was in essence threatening people with emminent domain if they did not give in to the State's demands. This prompted several heated calls from the Red Bluff office accusing me of spreading mis-information. I held my ground and stated that government employees have no right to threaten people when they don't get their way. The official stated that "You people better get used to the idea of gauges because they are going in whether you like it or not; Sacramento has determined that this will happen."

To date, the gauges have still not been installed, and the DWR has been warned that there is a high likelyhood of vandalism to the gauges if they are installed over the objections of the landowners.

BTW, the young regulator who threatened the landowner was extremely biased against republicans, accusing the "Reagan administration" of removing the old USGS flow gauges. Fortunately, the USGS guy stated that the gauges were blown out by the 1964 and 1973 floods, not removed by the Reagan administration.

65 posted on 03/30/2002 11:05:23 PM PST by forester
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To: Grampa Dave
Good luck on Monday and don't hurt those big trout. Catch them and bring them in quick and shake that hook out while they are still in the water

I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Odds are I'll be doing the Bataan skunk march back to my rig.

66 posted on 03/31/2002 5:48:10 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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I hate that march of de feet! This winter's fishing has either been great or the agony of de feet marching back to my Bronco with less flies, leaders/tippets and zero hook ups. Some days have been so bad, that I have actually welcomed the strike of a slimey bottom dwelling sucker fish.

Then a few days later, I have come back to the same stream, stood by the same rock, used the same flies, made the same casts and had a great day. I sometimes wonder if we produce a pherome that attracts fish or one that repells fish.

67 posted on 03/31/2002 5:56:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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I possess the repelling type of pheramone. Still waiting for weekend angling reports. I've been told that the lake is full of boats.
68 posted on 03/31/2002 2:16:12 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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