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Israel's Wars and How They Ended
Newsday ^

Posted on 04/05/2002 8:55:10 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

1947-49 war: Local skirmishes began in November 1947 after the United Nations adopted a resolution partitioning Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. Five Arab nations invaded immediately after Israel declared independence in May 1948. Israel repelled the invaders and captured more territory than allotted by the U.N. plan, which was never implemented. Egypt agreed to a U.N.-brokered armistice in February 1949, and similar agreements with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq followed.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; mideast

1 posted on 04/05/2002 8:55:10 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Newsday will soon be able to add another item, "Operation Punishing Sword", right after Secretary Powell returns to the US having failed to get the Pallies to stop suicide bombings.
2 posted on 04/05/2002 9:12:09 AM PST by l33t
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To: l33t
Newsday will soon be able to add another item, "Operation Punishing Sword", right after Secretary Powell returns to the US having failed to get the Pallies to stop suicide bombings.

Get real. SecState PowWow will come back flush with success, having learned from his own lips that Arafatty actually stopped the suicide bombings three years ago.

3 posted on 04/05/2002 9:22:10 AM PST by Diojneez
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To: Sub-Driver
1947-49 war: Local skirmishes began in November 1947 after the United Nations adopted a resolution partitioning Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.

I see they did not buy the land from anyone they JUST TOOK IT by a decree of the UN. When they buy the land so they own it and not take by force. The Jews have asked for what they have gotten in this deal, they never owned the land in the last few hundred years, they may have back a 1000 or so years ago, but that is another story. Buy the land they will have peace.

4 posted on 04/05/2002 9:37:09 AM PST by Phyto Chems
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To: Sub-Driver
I love the 1967 war, Israel really kicked their behinds.
5 posted on 04/05/2002 9:40:48 AM PST by ServesURight
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To: l33t
I believe that Netanyahu and Sharon will secure a peace with the Pallies, and it will not come without more bloodshed and it will not be soon. I hope it will be decisive militarily, putting an end to the terrorists abilities to continue their attacks. The only stumbling block that stops this is Arafat.
6 posted on 04/05/2002 9:41:58 AM PST by tupac
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To: Phyto Chems
We took the land from the indians and we're not giving it back. Israel needs to wipe out the palis once and for all. Then there will be peace.
7 posted on 04/05/2002 9:44:17 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: Phyto Chems
Firstly, Jews lived in that area continuously since at least 2000 BC.
Secondly, the UN partion plan did not deprive the Arabs who found themselves in the area allocated to the Jewish state from their land and possessions. The Jews stole nothing. The UN had every justification to a political national partition of this area which has never been an independent entity since the fall of the last Jewish state 2000 years ago.
8 posted on 04/05/2002 9:46:19 AM PST by l33t
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To: Sub-Driver;Phil V.;RCW2001;The Documentary Lady
Looks like AP overlooked something from the '67 War:
USS LIBERTY Memorial
9 posted on 04/05/2002 9:48:42 AM PST by luvzhottea
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To: Phyto Chems
The arab terrorists that think they have a right to the land live only to kill every Jew in Isreal - You can't buy peace. Israel is doing what it is doing to survive. BTW I'll bet dollars to dog dirt that some of bin ladens boys are assiting the arab slugs.
10 posted on 04/05/2002 9:51:20 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Wm Bach
Like Rush has pointed out ALL wars have never ended with a peace agreement that without one side being totally defeated like we did the Indians here in the US.

Your point of killing all those would be a real civlized way to go about it, right, LOL. Steal the land, in the first place, live as slaves on your own land and if you don't like it then we will kill you and your families. Take that you "palis", come on get a life.......

11 posted on 04/05/2002 9:52:32 AM PST by Phyto Chems
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To: l33t
Mr. t, you sully this thread by posting historical FACTS???

Get with the program. Facts are not welcome here; consult your CNN media guide.

The soi-disant 'Palestinians' are innocent victims of imperialism. BWAHAHAHA!

12 posted on 04/05/2002 10:12:45 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
Disrupter Alert!
 
ScreamingMime member since April 3rd, 2002
 

14 posted on 04/05/2002 10:21:08 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: ScreamingMime
Screaming Ninnie, you spelled your own name wrong, you hysterical shrieking poofter!

P.S. Invest in a freaking dictionary, clod.

15 posted on 04/05/2002 10:26:47 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: ScreamingMime
There (sic) culture is beatiful(sic) and a lot more harmonious than ours.

So, what revisionist history have you been reading? How harmonious were the Sioux with their scalping and enforced slavery of neighboring tribes? The Caribs, whose women spoke a different language because they were all slaves? The Pawnee with their young maiden sacrifices? The bitter feuds between the Algonquin and the Iroquois? Cannibalism. Slavery. Torture. Deliberate targeting of innocent women and children. The list goes on and on. Harmonious??? Me thinks you just might be the victim of public-school-tree-hugging-anti-white-European-male-Founding-Fathers-were-evil-social-manipulation "education."

16 posted on 04/05/2002 10:37:30 AM PST by shezza
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To: Sub-Driver
Great picture. Military genius at its best.
17 posted on 04/05/2002 10:54:13 AM PST by Pipers
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To: luvzhottea
A USS Liberty survivor laments the event being exploited by anti-Israel sorts and other 'types.'
18 posted on 04/05/2002 11:47:27 AM PST by veronica
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To: shezza
sounds like he has a REALLY bad case of liberal white male guilt LOL-
19 posted on 04/05/2002 12:22:10 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Phyto Chems
I see they did not buy the land from anyone they JUST TOOK IT by a decree of the UN. When they buy the land so they own it and not take by force. The Jews have asked for what they have gotten in this deal, they never owned the land in the last few hundred years, they may have back a 1000 or so years ago, but that is another story. Buy the land they will have peace.

Actually, Jews spent the period from 1890 to 1946 buying the land. That was the idea. Unfortunately, as Jews purchased and developed land, Arabs started migrating to Palestine. However after 1922, Arab cheiftans made it clear that anyone selling land to Jews, even at the vastly inflated rates, were to be put to death. Moreover, Startin in 1927, Arabs started occupying land Jews owened. Various communities like that of Hebron one which survived almost uninterupted for 3000 years) was disperesed by the Arabs (while the British stood aside). The British wanting peace, prevent Jewish migration after 1929, while promoting Arab Migration. In fact between 1890 and 1946, more Arabs than Jews settled the land.

In 1947, Arabs only owned 7% of the land. Most land was not open for purchase as it was owned by the British Mandate. This land then was passed to the Jewish National Fund and then the Israeli government.

20 posted on 04/05/2002 12:22:20 PM PST by rmlew
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To: luvzhottea
An American spy ship, operating in a war zone after the US navy said it had pulled out, and operating near Russian and Egyptian spy ships, was attacked.

Go blame the CIA!

21 posted on 04/05/2002 12:24:51 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Phyto Chems
they JUST TOOK IT by a decree of the UN.

Where did Syria come from? Where did Jordan come from? Give me a break. How come you are not whining about how the land was taken from the rightful owners there? Most of the Arab states were partitioned by the same guys. How come the Jews did not declare war on Jordan and demand a homeland? Jews lived there for thousands of years before Jordan was partitioned, the same a Syria.

You Islamics are all hypocrits. What is the most stupid thing is you believe each other, but not a one of you would know what the truth was if it bit you on the ass.

22 posted on 04/05/2002 1:04:03 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: luvzhottea
Looks like AP overlooked something from the '67 War Uss Liberty

Don't feel so bad, you overlooked something from last year Uss Cole. If it'd been a snake it'd bit ya.

23 posted on 04/05/2002 1:06:57 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: rmlew
In 1947, Arabs only owned 7% of the land. Most land was not open for purchase as it was owned by the British Mandate. This land then was passed to the Jewish National Fund and then the Israeli government.

Well now they demand half the land, and are killing everbody to get it.

24 posted on 04/05/2002 1:11:59 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
They are also trying to make Judea and Samaria Judenrien, even communities that have existed for 3000 years. (Hebron for instance?)
25 posted on 04/05/2002 3:35:59 PM PST by rmlew
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To: shezza
How harmonious were the Sioux with their scalping and enforced slavery of neighboring tribes?

Considering that scalping was introduced by the British and French, you can't really criticize the Sioux or any of the other tribes.

If your going to talk about the bad things Indians did, you need to talk about the bad things the US Government did. Otherwise, you'd be no better than the Germans and Japanese that are trying to write WWII out of the history books.

26 posted on 04/05/2002 3:55:26 PM PST by texlok
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To: Phyto Chems
I see they did not buy the land from anyone they JUST TOOK IT by a decree of the UN.

If you put it into context of the fact, that during the first part of the last century, Britain and France drew, and I do mean drew, the national borders of pretty much every country around Israel, then you'll understand why that area is so screwed up. It's like there are half a dozen mini-Yugoslavia's around there. Iraq with the Kurds alone is a good example. A great one is Afghanistan, which was thrown together, even though there are several major tribes which do not get along with one another.

That's part of the problem in the mid-east, unlike many other places, where countries had their borders almost set in stone due to geographical features (mountains, rivers, etc), most of the mid-east came from some Brits and French sitting around looking at the area with a blank piece of paper and a bunch of pencils.

27 posted on 04/05/2002 4:00:47 PM PST by texlok
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To: texlok
Considering that scalping was introduced by the British and French, you can't really criticize the Sioux or any of the other tribes.

Oh, really? Perhaps you've not read the historical records observed by the Cortes party (1525-ish). They were appalled at the barbaric traditions of the Native Americans and Mexicans, including scalping.

Even those who blame the Europeans will agree that Indians scalped each other for centuries before white man arrived...evidence of scalping on this continent dating back to nearly 2,500 B.C., more than a thousand years before scalping evidence in Europe or Asia. (Archaelogical evidence indicates there may have been scalping in China around 1,000 B.C.)

Written accounts (484-425BC) indicate scalping was practiced by the Scythians (Iranians) who inhabited the Danube-DonVolga regions. Antiochus (second book of the Maccabees) gives descriptions of Persian troops scalping Jews. Texts from the Visigoths contain some references to scalping in Europe.

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it certainly wasn't "introduced" to the peaceful utopian Indians by mean old Europeans. The original post waxed poetic about the "harmonious" existence of Indians prior to white man showing up and ruining paradise for them. I was merely pointing out that the poster's argument was false, as is yours.

29 posted on 04/06/2002 4:37:50 AM PST by shezza
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To: ScreamingMime
ScreamingMime member since April 3rd, 2002
30 posted on 04/06/2002 1:07:51 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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