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British Subjects Beginning to Rethink Gun Control
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | April 3, 2002 | Erich Pratt

Posted on 04/07/2002 8:21:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou

Who would ever have thought that a British paper would extol the virtues of private citizens bearing arms?

That is what readers of the London Daily Telegraph must have been asking themselves recently when they read Simon Heffer's article entitled, "If the state fails us, we must defend ourselves."

It turns out, the state has been failing British citizens in a big way.

Heffer documents several gruesome murders, the most recent involving a gang of young thugs who repeatedly stabbed an unarmed, 82 year-old lady to death.

Crime has gotten so bad, Heffer says, that Brits like himself are beginning to reexamine their long-held assumptions about the government's role in controlling crime.

Heffer used to believe there was an implicit contract between law-abiding citizens and the state.  The people surrender certain freedoms to the government, and officials would in turn use their power to control crime.

He says it is clear to all, however, that "the state has broken that contract."

Now that crime rates are skyrocketing in England, Heffer believes it is time for the British government to recognize a new right for denizens like himself — the right to bear arms.

In one sense, Heffer is wrong.  Bearing arms would not be a "new right" for Englishmen, for the English Bill of Rights recognized this very important freedom as far back as 1689.

But he is correct in another sense.  The British government consistently denies its people the ability to protect themselves with a firearm.  England enacted a draconian gun ban after the Dunblane massacre, yet that law has done nothing to reduce crime, Heffer says.

In fact, things have only gotten worse.  He longingly looks to America where citizens can defend themselves with firearms, unlike the situation in England where a homeowner used a gun in 1999 to kill a lifelong criminal and was then sent to jail for life!

Heffer is correct in saying that the British government has definitely let the people down.

But before Americans start gloating about our superior laws, we should admit that we also know a thing or two about the state failing its citizens.  Take the Los Angeles riots, for example. This month will mark the ten-year anniversary of these riots — an uprising that began after a jury acquitted two cops of using excessive force against motorist Rodney King.

If you owned a TV in April of 1992, you will never forget the horrible images that blared day and night after the jury verdict was announced.

For several days, Los Angeles was in complete turmoil as stores were looted and burned.  Motorists were dragged from their cars and beaten.

Further aggravating the situation, police were very slow in responding to the crisis.  Many Guardsmen, after being mobilized to the affected areas, sat by and watched the violence because their rifles were low on ammunition.

Not surprisingly, hundreds of people were injured.  More than a dozen innocent citizens were killed.

But not everybody in Los Angeles suffered.  In some of the hot spots, Korean merchants were able to successfully protect their stores with semi-automatic firearms.

"We went through hell," said supermarket owner Richard Rhee. "No police, no National Guard.  We called for help and they said we were on our own."

As it turns out, they did just fine on their own.  In areas where armed citizens banded together for self-protection, their businesses were spared while others (which were left unprotected) burned to the ground.

To be sure, the pictures of Korean merchants defending their stores left quite an impression on one group of people living in Los Angeles:  those who had previously identified themselves as gun control advocates.

Press reports described how life-long gun control supporters were running to gun stores to buy an item they never thought they would need — a gun.  But alas, they were surprised (and outraged!) to learn there was a 15-day waiting period upon firearms.

The situation was truly outrageous.  The state of California could not protect these people, but in the same breath, it was not letting those same citizens protect themselves.

Simon Heffer is right.  English citizens should be allowed to protect themselves.  But lest we think that England has a monopoly on stupid laws, let us never forget one of the most important lessons from the Los Angeles riots:  guns save lives, and gun control only encourages bad people to prey upon disarmed victims.

Erich Pratt is the Director of Communications for Gun Owners of America, a national gun lobby with over 300,000 members located at 8001 Forbes Place, Springfield, VA 22151 and at http://www.gunowners.org on the web.


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"But lest we think that England has a monopoly on stupid laws, let us never forget one of the most important lessons from the Los Angeles riots: guns save lives, and gun control only encourages bad people to prey upon disarmed victims."

His summation is spot on and bears repeating again and again.

I would go further and point out that our major cities with high crime and handgun bans, still havn't figured it out yet, even though the folks living in them have.

1 posted on 04/07/2002 8:21:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
If the Brits had a collective brain between them they would have adopted our constitution a long time ago. They deserve whatever happens to them.
2 posted on 04/07/2002 8:29:51 PM PDT by mercy
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
I really wish I could find an editorial on the Back Page of Defense Electronics maganizine (I think it's now Security and Defense Electronics) from about the Fall of 1985.

The theme was the gun freedom laws (AKA 2nd amendment) were promulgated by the tyrant royal class in Europe who raised taxes so high they couldn't be paid.

They accepted payment from the peasants by "renting" the children of over-taxed peasants and sexually abusing them. Both men and women of the "Royals" participated.

Any link to this article would be appreciated.

3 posted on 04/07/2002 8:37:00 PM PDT by ReaganIsRight
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
British Subjects Beginning to Rethink Gun Control

As long as they have the mindset of "subjects", they are just haggling over the weight of their chains.

4 posted on 04/07/2002 8:38:52 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: mercy
Too bad we didn't free our homelands along with ourselves, who knows, if we had done so, there may have been no World Wars, and the Tyrants wouldn't have screwed up the middle east, Africa, and the rest of the world.
5 posted on 04/07/2002 8:39:07 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Mulder
Agreed, but they have always been subjects, it's all they know. We were fortunate enough to have 3000 miles of ocean between us and the King, which gave us the taste for something better.
6 posted on 04/07/2002 8:43:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
The kicked dog is beginning to show a tooth or two?
7 posted on 04/07/2002 8:45:22 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: ReaganIsRight
I'll see if I can find it online or off, sounds a bit slanderous to say the least.
8 posted on 04/07/2002 8:45:55 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2...
Shopkeeper loses eye after 100th robbery
9 posted on 04/07/2002 8:52:33 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
We were fortunate enough to have 3000 miles of ocean between us and the King, which gave us the taste for something better.

And fortunate enough to have a group of very brave men who valued Liberty over life some 200+ years ago.

10 posted on 04/07/2002 8:54:02 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: mercy
With the last two dozen administrations we have had in Washington, we are headed for the same experience as Britain. The continual support of the United Nations and the CFR is sinking America into the sludge of Communism. I can tell you that this has been definitely a steady progression downhill to the loss of America's liberties.

We have proud socialists in our Congress. They have every right to be proud. Looking at the lack of guts displayed by the Republicans, I am amazed that there hasn't been a national outcry for a 3rd and/or 4th party to take America back.

11 posted on 04/07/2002 9:03:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Mulder
They were few at the time. We are still called, "the Sons of Liberty."
12 posted on 04/07/2002 9:07:21 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: B4Ranch
The continual support of the United Nations and the CFR is sinking America into the sludge of Communism.

You're absolutely correct. Reagan broke the trend, but we have slidden back down that path.

13 posted on 04/07/2002 9:13:59 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: B4Ranch
Looking at the lack of guts displayed by the Republicans, I am amazed that there hasn't been a national outcry for a 3rd and/or 4th party to take America back.

The GOP establishment has been very successful at blaming Perot (instead of Bush and his liberal policies) for electing Clinton in 1992. As a result, the immediate response to a third-party is negative.

I still think the best way to get things back on track is to work within the GOP, as Reagan did. Of course, the GOP establishment deems any candidate other than the "annointed one" as "unelectable" or "too extreme" or "too inexperienced", so we'll have to overcome that somehow.

But the GOP statists are a step ahead of us here. They are working to rig the primaries so that all of them occur very early and very close to each other. This makes it hard for an outsider or underdog to prevail. Campaign Finance Reform, by limiting speech 30 days before a primary election, makes it even more difficult.

14 posted on 04/07/2002 9:20:58 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: ReaganIsRight
According to FAS they didn't add Defense Electronics Magazine to their archives because it "duplicates other online content", they should have a link to it, but alas no.
15 posted on 04/07/2002 9:50:25 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: mercy
Someone should remind the Britts that one of the reasons we have the Second Amendment is King George tried to impose gun control on us before the revolution. Said the British troops stationed here would provide us all the protection we needed.
16 posted on 04/07/2002 9:56:43 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: bang_list
One sheeple awakens...
17 posted on 04/07/2002 10:10:25 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: bang_list;Byron_the_Aussie
BTTT
19 posted on 04/07/2002 11:38:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: B4Ranch
It's beginning to stir.....I think that's why CFR was signed, to ward off/nay make it almost impossible for a third party candidate to make it to the dais! The number of Independents is growing by leaps and bounds, Conservatives gaining the most. Please keep yelling for the death of the FEC, that commission of UNELECTED ELITES who decides just about all the rules. Its getting to the point that we practically have state sponsored elections.
20 posted on 04/07/2002 11:50:02 PM PDT by brat
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