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To: Cu Roi
If a celibate clergy is a "disaster in the making" it took about nineteen centuries to become a disaster.

Homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles enter the Protestant ministry and the rabbinate as well. They take jobs as coaches, daycare workers, teachers, even ride operators at Disneyworld.

They will do anything to get near children. Many, many homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles are married.

Your argument seems to be that if priests are allowed to marry, then pedophiles will no longer be attracted to the priesthood. Wrong. As long as priests have access to children then homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles will try to sneak into the priesthood.

Before 1963, these problems were almost unheard of. There is a good reason for this. In those days, authority for selection of candidates was given to vocation masters who were themselves priests. They would evaluate candidates and reject anyone whom they thought was "funny".

This process was eliminated by liberals after 1963. Now evaluation is left to a secular psychologist instead of novice masters. The American Psychological Association has promoted sodomy and sexual license for decades and has lately gotten into the business of justifying pedophilia.

It is no wonder that so many APA-approved priests have such serious moral defects.

In short - Freud is wrong, not St. Paul.

20 posted on 04/09/2002 11:26:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
If a celibate clergy is a "disaster in the making" it took about nineteen centuries to become a disaster.

In the past there were more surplus men who knew they wouldn't have the financial prospects to raise children. Many of them were orphans who were raised in the church. They didn't enter the priesthood for the most noble of reasons, but were generally good people who wouldn't stand for one of their colleages banging the altarboys. This kind of institutional priesthood has disappeared with affluence.

The other thing is that the celebate priesthood hasn't been around for nineteen centuries. The celebacy requirement came about in response to an earlier nepotism crisis. And later on still, pedophelia in the priesthood wasn't much of a problem when it was generally assumed that priests would have mistresses from time to time.

Homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles enter the Protestant ministry and the rabbinate as well. They take jobs as coaches, daycare workers, teachers, even ride operators at Disneyworld.

There are clerics from all religions who abuse their positions in order to get sex. But this still doesn't explain the peculiar tendency towards homosexual abuse in the Catholic Church that is not evident in other religions. When Baptist ministers or rabbis seduce a young teen, it is usually a female.

Before 1963, these problems were almost unheard of. There is a good reason for this.

These problems were heard of, just not spoken of. We are now hearing of grown men who were molested back in the '40s and '50s who are coming forward. When I was younger my dad warned me he heard stories about these kinds of things when he was growing up.

In short - Freud is wrong, not St. Paul.

Indeed, Paul is not wrong. In fact, he stated in one of his epistles that church leaders should have only one wife, which clearly supports the idea of a non-celebate clergy.

27 posted on 04/09/2002 11:53:46 AM PDT by Cu Roi
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