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Case tests liability of gun owners in deaths
Indianapolis Star ^ | 11 April 2002 | Michele McNeil Solida

Posted on 04/11/2002 12:30:21 PM PDT by 45Auto

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:26:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Allen County Sheriff's Deputy Eryk Heck was investigating a robbery when he was shot to death outside a Fort Wayne house. Timothy Stoffer, already a convicted felon, wasn't even supposed to have a gun. But he found one anyway, in an armchair in his parents' house.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: banglist; vicariousliability
Its a delicate and controversial matter only to those who would deny the basic Constitutional RKBA.
1 posted on 04/11/2002 12:30:21 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
First it was gun-locks...now, it will be gun safes. The insurance companies will refuse to issue home owners insurance to gun owners.
2 posted on 04/11/2002 12:33:27 PM PDT by beowolf
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To: 45Auto
"If he hadn't been able to get ahold of that gun, then there wouldn't have been a murder. It's that simple," Don Heck said

That's true. There's absolutely no other way to commit a murder.

3 posted on 04/11/2002 12:34:23 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: 45Auto
The felon lost his rights to possess a weapon. He broke the law (again) by handling and using a weapon. It was not the responsibility of the gun owner to perpetually supervise the felon. The felon knew the difference between right and wrong and chose to offend again. That is an entirely different situation from leaving a firearm unattended in the reach of children who have had no proper training.

I keep my firearms in a safe when not carrying them. I do it because my children bring friends to my home at times that I'm not present to supervise the activities. I choose not to leave myself open to criminal liability by allowing unsupervised children to have access to my firearms.

5 posted on 04/11/2002 12:56:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: *bang_list

6 posted on 04/11/2002 12:56:48 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: 45Auto
How old was the cop killer?....
7 posted on 04/11/2002 1:33:48 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: one_particular_harbour
one_particular_harbour said: "I am really torn here. Every time some slack jawed idiots don't use common sense in safeguarding, maintaining and storing their weapons, it puts the rights of us all at risk."

Really? I am not torn at all. Virtually everyone over the age of ten knows that murder is a crime.

If you step even so much as five feet off a curb into heavy oncoming traffic, you will more than likely be killed. The danger of this happening is ever-present and outweighs any dangers associated with firearms. Yet, we have not heard wailing regarding having six-foot high fences around every roadway. There are some things that people are expected to learn. That will never change.

If you allow the shallow arguments being made by gun-grabbers to seem legitimate in any way, then you are aiding their cause of eliminating freedom.

8 posted on 04/11/2002 1:46:35 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: beowolf
The insurance companies will refuse to issue home owners insurance to gun owners.

Sounds like a new market niche.

9 posted on 04/11/2002 1:53:23 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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"There's no one arguing to take away their guns," Day said. "We just want them to be responsible with that weapon."

Lie number one of every single gun law that has ever been presented to the public by the tyrants and dictators through the ages.

10 posted on 04/11/2002 2:45:11 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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